act of shooting does basket count if it goes in

[malloy]

A1 is in the act of shooting a jump shoot. While the ball is still in the A1's hand B1 pushes his way through a screener set for A1. Foul is called on B1. Is the basket counted or waved off at the highschool and college level.

[Jurassic Referee]

Count the basket if it goes in- both NFHS & NCAA rulesets. The FED rules citation is R6-7EXCEPTION(c).

[malloy]

In the IU Duke game this play happened and they did not count the basket. Are you sure about your ruling?

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by malloy
In the IU Duke game this play happened and they did not count the basket. Are you sure about your ruling?

Yes we are sure. Just because it happen on TV does not mean it was correct.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

JR's ruling is correct.

In the IU/Duke game, Donnie Gray made the correct call in my opinion.
The IU player had not yet begun the act of shooting on his drive when Sheldon Williams of Duke fouled another IU player under the basket.

It was a close call and tough break for IU, but correct by rule.

[malloy]

Ok, Thanks

[tomegun]

Originally posted by Nevadaref
JR's ruling is correct.

In the IU/Duke game, Donnie Gray made the correct call in my opinion.
The IU player had not yet begun the act of shooting on his drive when Sheldon Williams of Duke fouled another IU player under the basket.

It was a close call and tough break for IU, but correct by rule.

Nevada, what was the shooter doing?

[IREFU2]

My wife and I were watching that game and it looked like he was in the act of shooting from two of the replay angles. That whistle and the shot was sooooooo close!!!!!

[tomegun]

Originally posted by IREFU2
My wife and I were watching that game and it looked like he was in the act of shooting from two of the replay angles. That whistle and the shot was sooooooo close!!!!!

But did the ACT of shooting start before the whistle?

[IREFU2]

Originally posted by tomegun

But did the ACT of shooting start before the whistle?

Like I said, they were VERY close and even the announcers played back the replay several time and thought so. Without being on the floor or seeing and hearing the playback, one will never know!

[tomegun]

You said the whistle and the shot were close, not the whistle and the beginning of the act of shooting were close. This is very important when deciding on a play like this, BUT if we have to split hairs he should have been considered in the act of shooting.

[All_Heart]

I think he was in the act and I agree with Tomegun that if it's close you should probably count that bucket. Why take away that layup and reward the defense. Also it was funny to hear Vitale saying that they got it right because the ball had not left his hand. And we wonder why fans don't know the rules .

[Buckley11]

I, too, prescribe to notion that, "When in doubt, he was in the act of shooting"

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by tomegun

But did the ACT of shooting start before the whistle?

That should not be a factor. The play is usually dead before the whistle is blown. So if the officials feel the foul happen first, no shot. The whistle should not be a factor in their decision. Once again I did not see the entire replay, just the very end.

Peace

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by JRutledge

That should not be a factor. The play is usually dead before the whistle is blown. So if the officials feel the foul happen first, no shot. The whistle should not be a factor in their decision.

That's a fair point. So let's change the question. Did the ACT of shooting start before the foul?