The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Thu Oct 20, 2005, 10:34pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 28
Send a message via AIM to regs12

Is there a rule that prevents players from putting there hands into the other lane space during free throw. not touching another and not disconcerting the thrower, just sort of "spreading out" as you often see?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Thu Oct 20, 2005, 10:53pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 9,466
Send a message via AIM to rainmaker
Quote:
Originally posted by regs12

Is there a rule that prevents players from putting there hands into the other lane space during free throw. not touching another and not disconcerting the thrower, just sort of "spreading out" as you often see?
yes, there is a rule. someone else will have to find the citation, I don't know it.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Fri Oct 21, 2005, 12:49am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: In the offseason.
Posts: 12,260
There is no such rule. They may place their hands and arms where ever they wish. If while doing so they make contact, you may have the option of calling a foul. However, I've never seen it called.
__________________
Owner/Developer of RefTown.com
Commissioner, Portland Basketball Officials Association
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Fri Oct 21, 2005, 05:17am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 15,003
Quote:
Originally posted by Camron Rust
There is no such rule. They may place their hands and arms where ever they wish. If while doing so they make contact, you may have the option of calling a foul. However, I've never seen it called.
Camron is correct.
One of my pet peeves is when officials tell players not to do things that are legal. I frequently hear officials tell players to keep their hands/arms in their own spaces during FTs.
That is flat out wrong.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Fri Oct 21, 2005, 07:09am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Boston area
Posts: 615
See Case Book 9.1.9 Situation A (c).

Arms may extend outside the marked lane space. Feet may not.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Oct 21, 2005, 09:18am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Western Mass.
Posts: 9,105
Send a message via AIM to ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by Nevadaref
I frequently hear officials tell players to keep their hands/arms in their own spaces during FTs. That is flat out wrong.
I say this all the time. Girls usually, but also increasingly guys as well, do the "my arm is over your arm" nonsense. I don't tell them it's illegal by rule. I just tell them to knock it off. And they do.
__________________
Any NCAA rules and interpretations in this post are relevant for men's games only!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Fri Oct 21, 2005, 09:40am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 508
BayStateRef

Quote:
Originally posted by BayStateRef
See Case Book 9.1.9 Situation A (c).

Arms may extend outside the marked lane space. Feet may not.
I agree with Nevada that there appears to be no explicit prohibition in the rules regarding players reaching out (but not touching someone).

But I don't think 9.1.9 Situation A (c) grants permission to reach out. It says "extends arms over the area between the lane spaces", then describes the 'neutral zone' and the 2" wide lines that mark the rest of the spaces. Perhaps this very narrow issue is what's addressed. Ought that which is not explicitly permitted be presumed denied? Perhaps.

Consider the case where B1's arm is extended and dribbler A1 doesn't run into it. Nothing happened. Analogously, if B2 in the low block position extends an arm in front of the player in the next marked lane space, A2, and A2 doesn't contact it . . . nothing happened . . . yet . . . but often there is arm contact, followed by more arm contact, followed by more arm contact. You might say 'lay off', before you do end up with a double personal foul . . .

__________________
Sarchasm: the gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the recipient.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Oct 21, 2005, 09:53am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Just north of hell
Posts: 9,250
Send a message via AIM to Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by Nevadaref
I frequently hear officials tell players to keep their hands/arms in their own spaces during FTs. That is flat out wrong.
I say this all the time. Girls usually, but also increasingly guys as well, do the "my arm is over your arm" nonsense. I don't tell them it's illegal by rule. I just tell them to knock it off. And they do.
Me too.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Fri Oct 21, 2005, 09:54am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Beaver, PA
Posts: 481
Lots of times, when the arms are extended in front of an opponent, B1 will hold A1 such that B1 will get prime boxing out positioning. That is a foul. I will also tell the players to knock if off if they are playing pitty-pat with their arms prior to the FT. I will also tell them not to hold their opponents or enter the lane early. These warnings (if necessary) will be made as I announce and administer the FT. The whistle will clean it up if necessary.
__________________
I only wanna know ...
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Fri Oct 21, 2005, 10:09am
In Memoriam
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Hell
Posts: 20,211
Quote:
Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by Nevadaref
I frequently hear officials tell players to keep their hands/arms in their own spaces during FTs. That is flat out wrong.
I say this all the time. Girls usually, but also increasingly guys as well, do the "my arm is over your arm" nonsense. I don't tell them it's illegal by rule. I just tell them to knock it off. And they do.
Me too.
Me three.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Fri Oct 21, 2005, 10:13am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Western Mass.
Posts: 9,105
Send a message via AIM to ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:
Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
I don't tell them it's illegal by rule. I just tell them to knock it off. And they do.
Me too.
Me three.
You like me!! You really like me!!!
__________________
Any NCAA rules and interpretations in this post are relevant for men's games only!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Fri Oct 21, 2005, 10:27am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 9,466
Send a message via AIM to rainmaker
Quote:
Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:
Originally posted by regs12

Is there a rule that prevents players from putting there hands into the other lane space during free throw. not touching another and not disconcerting the thrower, just sort of "spreading out" as you often see?
yes, there is a rule. someone else will have to find the citation, I don't know it.
Yea, okay, everyone else is right. I was thrown off by...

...let's see...

..oh, yeah, by the title of the thread, that's it. There are feet in the title of the thread and it confused me. Right...
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Fri Oct 21, 2005, 11:07am
In Memoriam
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Hell
Posts: 20,211
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:
Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
I don't tell them it's illegal by rule. I just tell them to knock it off. And they do.
Me too.
Me three.
You like me!! You really like me!!!
Shut up.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Fri Oct 21, 2005, 11:15am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Western Mass.
Posts: 9,105
Send a message via AIM to ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Shut up.
54 minutes. Took you long enough.
__________________
Any NCAA rules and interpretations in this post are relevant for men's games only!
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Fri Oct 21, 2005, 11:29am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Just north of hell
Posts: 9,250
Send a message via AIM to Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Shut up.
54 minutes. Took you long enough.
JR & I spent the last hour emailing each other back & forth to decide whether we like you, or if we REALLY like you.

The discussion has moved a bit, now we're just trying to decide if we like you.

btw...shut up

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:10am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1