OK, Starting a new thread here. If you would like to receive the NFHS, PART 1 Exam, in PDF format, you can either post your email here or email me through the board. I will send out one email DAILY, sometime after 11PM EASTERN time. THIS TEST DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ANSWERS. YOU WILL HAVE TO GET THOSE ON YOUR OWN.

I will place a post in the forum each time I have completed a mailing, and also so that I know where to start collecting address for the next mailing.

Thanks, but no thanks. I'll just wait till I get my "packet" of stuff from my association.

Uh-oh

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You think you're better then me?

OK, I've filled all orders to people who have emailed me through the board. If you didn't receive it, check your spam box. If you still didn't find it, email me again. Still taking orders. Answers not included.

OK, I have filled all orders again....10PM ET Sunday night....regs12, yours came back undeliverable. PLease try me again witht a different address if you have one.

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OK, if you have posted your email here or emailed me, you should now have the test. Add your address below or email me if you still need it.

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Busy, busy, busy......

I agree with Chuck (if Chuck didn't say it... I'm sorry!) that it's extremely interesting to watch how many of these requesters stick around that have a low post count. My best guess is that one in ten stay around.

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Busy, busy, busy....

Next year, why don't you guys do this on Ebay? Just a thought.

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Never to be heard from again, Tanner, until next year's exam comes out.......

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I hope these people realize they are requesting last year's version of the test.

Probably not...I think its funny.

I can tell you its a lot different than last years.

Well, I hope that they all realize that they're cheating l'il goobers also.

But somehow I doubt that any of 'em really care anyway.

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C'mon JR...how can you say ALL are cheating?

That's a little harsh, IMO. Maybe some actually just use them for themselves for study purposes, and don't share them with people that get "graded" and/or do the test in a closed book setting.

We take the test on-line...and it is open book. There is also no time limit on the test...you can test for awhile, come back and test some more...at your convienence.

Take it easy on the poor little goobers. ;)

Yeah, the thought is confirmed. I was actually confused when I logged in a few minutes ago and saw this thread at the top with 5 pages already. I had to review it to realize it was from last year. Looks like we picked up at least one new poster (for the time being)...let's see if he/she hangs around.

Obviously, the people who have requested it haven't realized when the thread was dated. Oh well... they'll figure it out. Maybe I should send them last year's exam... :)

From what I have researched, the NFHS has no policy in regard to taking the test unaided. (However, it may be an association policy). It can be open book, open neighbor, or whatever. I would think that as long as the official can get it right that is all that matters. If a big time decision needed to be made, they certainly could consult the other official(s) on the game.

For what it's worth, the NFHS is working on putting the test on line nationally starting next year.

They are also looking to scrap the T/F can you figure out the question format, with multiple choice of actual game video.

I think the NFHS puts the test out and then it's up to the State associations how they want to use them.

Each state makes their own policy with regards to test-taking. Some states do have closed-book, proctored exams- either Part I or Part II. Some states require passing grades on NFHS tests as a prerequisite to attaining play-off games or for advancement to a higher category.

Iow, what might be OK for a particular state could also be viewed as cheating in a different state. States also write the exams at different times too- some not until early December. Anybody who has the actual exam a month before they write that exam sureasheck has the potential of cheating when they do write the exam.

We hand out the previous year's exam to any of our association's members who would like study material. That's heckuva lot different having all of the exact questions of the current exam pre-exam.

There's a big difference between getting it right and cheating. Jmo, but I don't think that I wanna go out on the court with officials who cut corners. That's just me though. Obviously, all of these people requesting these exams every year don't agree with me.

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I want to work with people that can officiate, I do not care what test they passed. I have yet to officiate a game where the coach or assignor wanted to know what my test score is.

Peace

But, I'm not sure I want to work with an official that takes shortcuts. If they take this shortcut, how do I know they really know the rules when it's crunch time? Do they take the shortcut and lie to their assignor about being sick and not being able to take a game, when in reality maybe they got a more "prestigious" game? Do you want to work with that official as well?

It's not about the test score, it's about the official's integrety.

Isn't passing a closed-book, proctored NFHS Part II exam in Illinois part of an official being able to advance in category classification so that you are eligible for year-end state assignments?

The problem is that the <b>potential</b> for cheating is there. Perception may not be reality, but that perception alone is a problem.

JMO.

The NCAA has an open book test and it was said very openly that the test could be taken by anyone with help. It was encouraged and the exact words of Hank Nichols, "I do not care if you take the test with 6 people looking over your shoulder." NCAA officials have to pass the test in order to work post season. They do not consider it a lack of integrity to pass the test with help. I took open book tests in college and it was understood that you would work with other students to complete the test.

Whether someone gets a test score has nothing to do with the integrity of an official as it relates to getting off a game or how well someone works. The test is to get the official to look at the rules. I want people who not only understand the rules, but know how they are to be applied. Many of the questions do not ask common sense real world questions. If you only pick up the rulebook, casebook or handbook at one time of the year and never pick it up again. I am much more concerned about that official.

Hey, this is my opinion and many folks I know share it. I am not going to convince anyone here either way.

Peace

The Part 2 exam involves promotion, not post season. Most officials that works the post season have not taken the Part 2 exam in years (like me). And many of the officials that once took the Part 2 exam many years ago never had to take the test as a "true" closed book test or with all the restrictions I had to go through when I took it. It was an easy test when half the answers were already on the ARS computer program. Memorizing answers does not in my opinion prove you know what are actually in the rules.

Peace

thanks for looking out for us younger officials. Here is my email [email protected]

We agree on that.

That was one of my points all along.

You're only cheating yourself imo.

And I'm repeating myself now. Time to drop this one and let 'em do what they were gonna do anyway. Half-hour to game time.

Right now you aren't saying anything I disagree with. The open book tests are specifically designed for people to go through the book and learn the rules.

What I have a problem with are the officials that just turn in their test with answers they've copied from their fellow officials, or off the answer sheet someone supplies here. It's the shortcut of not looking through the book, not discussing the answers and reasons with their fellow officials, and not learning anything. It's just the shortcut of turning in the answer sheet to the state to fulfill the requirement, without going through any effort to learn the rules.

That's what has been discussed here - people posting answers where they can be used by the ethically-challenged. Most of us will not use the answers in that way, but why give anyone the opportunity? Do you want to work with anyone who operates that way?

The actual test is more about reading than rules knowledge on some questions. It seems that the words, "and & or" are interspersed throughout and serve more to trip you up, although I might be the only one that thinks this.

I'll have to admit, again, this year I've gave out the only answers to Part I.... true or false....sorry! :D

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This is the problem I have. You and others are putting so much emphasis on the test. It takes years to understand the rules and working games. Then during down time you read the rulebook, read the casebook, look over rules tests, read plays in the internet (if that is your thing), talk to fellow officials about situations that happen and listen to other officials talk about situations that happen to them. There are a ton of things you need to do to fully understand the rules. Taking a test is not going to prove that from my point of view.

I have a group of friends (about 10 people) that for the last 5 years or so we always get together and go over the test. Two of us go on a consistent basis go over the test before this meeting and find every rule reference to every rule. As we go through the test me and the person who hosts the little party give every rule reference we can find on every test question. We also discuss issue that might not be so obvious to the question. It is clear that some come to the meeting getting the answers. Usually those that do that are asking a lot of questions for clarification. We also have a few newer officials that might not be aware of the idiosyncrasies of the rules (like when the ball is at the disposal of a FT shooter--this was a debate based on a question in this year's test). I do a lot of work to get this information, but I do not care one bit if someone is helped by the information we provide or give them. I would hope that they would take the information and start reading deeper in the rulebook considering that many of the questions almost completely ignored by the NF test.

First of all I cannot sit in judgment of someone that I do not see what they do in their spare time. I want to work with people that have a good understanding of the rules, but not only a quotable knowledge of the rules. In my opinion the tests only teach you what is actually in the rulebook rather than how to apply the rules in real life situations. That is just my opinion.

Peace

Well, for the first time in many years, I won't have to worry about taking the exam. After my latest visit to the ortho doctor regarding my left knee, I have decided that it is time to hang up the stripes & whistle rather than risk having to replace the knee. I'll miss it, but I will still visit the forum just to read the b*tching & moaning going on. ;)

Again, I agree <B>wholeheartedly</B> with everything you've said. Getting together to discuss the test, forcing yourself to go through the rules to find the proper references, talking amongst yourselves as to how the question should be answered based on the rules and cases - these are all the <B>right</B> way to do it.

But you still missed my point. My emphasis is not on the test itself or the results, but how the results are obtained. The test is meant to make you look through the books. I don't care what score someone gets on the test. But I do wonder about the person that just copies down answers so they can send in the test to fulfill their requirement. There was a person in our association that did this - copied the answers from someone else - and then bragged about getting 100%. Huh? This is not the type of person I would want to work with.

The emphasis isn't on the test, but on the person. We are just trying to make it a little harder on the people that want to take the shortcuts by not automatically supplying all the answers at one time. If we can make it just hard enough so that one person decides it's not worth it, and does the test the right way, then I would consider that a success. :)

Sorry to hear that...I mean about the knee, not about you staying around :)

Good luck

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I thought only some of us were allowed to call Dan a dummy?!

Um, no, actually there's a club that you can join- open to anybody regardless of race, color, creed or religious affiliation. Even wimmen are allowed to join.

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Hey thanks for looking out for us young refs who lose hair at night worrying about the [email protected]

Well, maybe if you read the rule book a little instead of cheating your little azz off, you might not worry so damn much.

Young refs don't become old refs by cutting corners.

Somehow I don't think that you'll ever have to worry about being an old ref though.

Somebody will send them this year's exam, TH. It's unfortunate but it's true. If they wanna cheat, then they're gonna cheat.

Being a young official, I completely agree. Just look up the questions, simple enough. If you come across a question you find confusing or you don't understand, ask, that's the only way you're going to learn. Then again, you have to have the desire to learn. But whatever, send them last year's exam, most of these people claim they are wanting it for review, so last year's exam should serve the same purpose.

I'm not addressing that. I'm simply trying to point out to all this folks asking for the test that it's last year's exam. I doubt W&S is even paying attention to it.

BTW, what states use Part 1 in any part of their certification process? Does anyone know?