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He says, "Did you have our game against [other team]?" I said, "Yes I did, Coach." He said, "Did you write a letter to your board?" I was a little confused, b/c to me, "board" means my local IAABO board. He caught me totally off-guard, so I told him no. He says, "Because somebody wrote a letter saying one of my guys threatened them." And then it clicks (duh). "Well, Coach, I did send a report to my assignor. And I did say that somebody threatened us after the game." He says, "Well, I wish you'd come to me about it instead. Because I wouldn't tolerate that on my team." BS. I just said, "Well, Coach, that's how I was told to handle it. I sent the report and the assignor said he would deal with the AD." He basically said ok and that was the end of it. The game was completely uneventful. I honestly can't even remember one play from it. Go figure.
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And then it clicks (duh). "Well, Coach, I did send a report to my assignor. And I did say that somebody threatened us after the game." He says, "Well, I wish you'd come to me about it instead. Because I wouldn't tolerate that on my team." [/B][/QUOTE]That's when you say to the coach- "Great, Coach. I'm certainly glad to hear that you won't tolerate it. Now, tell me.....what did you do to your player?". That's usually when you get a lot of "humma,humma,hummas" |
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Once, immediately after a game, I called my juco assignor on my cell phone about a problem with a player. He joked about it, calmed me down - said he was surprised the kid didn't call him first saying *I* threatened to kick *his* @ss after the game - and said to send a written report to him and no one else, he would handle it. Sometime during the drive home I decided f@ck it, why bother, and I never sent the report. He never asked me about it. And now the kid is long gone, and the coach & I have a great relationship. And I suspect my assignor is glad he never got that report.
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We play NCAA rules, so 2 x 20 min halves. A decent game is quite speedy as we only do a 5 min halftime and the guys usually want to keep the game moving quickly - unlike high school games where they fuss around with multiple timeouts, etc.
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About a year ago I worked my last Men's League game FOREVER! I've been called to schedule more at that gym and others and I either politely decline or already have something going on that night. Even if it means I'm taking my wife to her hair appointment.
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If I had a choice between reffing mens league or not reffing at all, I hate to say it but as much as I enjoy officiating basektball I wouldn't officiate. I don't have fun reffing mens rec league, so why do it? |
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From my experience with those types of leagues, it all depends on the people running the leagues. If the people in charge are serious about sportsmanship and those types of issues, the games are sometimes actually fun to work. However, if the people in charge are just collecting the fees and don't back you up over their "buddies", then you will not have any fun. Guaranteed.
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Rec Leagues I have worked have a 3-T Max per team and then forfeit. The first WHACK usually calms them down and then they know you won't listen to their crap.
I have seen it go to the 3-T limit and then bye.
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I ref mens league because I think staying active is better than going 1-2 weeks between games and then diving right into a high school season.
Did another pair of games last night - no incidents, no T's, and encountered a new team that is easily the most sportsmanlike team I've ever done in that league. They commit a tonne of fouls, but nary a complaint. Both games combined took just over 2 hours, 15 min. YAY!
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Men's league is full of guys who think they are still in HS & that their exploits will earn them a big write-up in the local paper. I stopped PLAYING in those leagues for that reason. Why would I want to officiate them?
HS scrimmages are much better to ease into the regular season.
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Okay, y'all seem to be under the impression that there are tonnes and tonnes of HS scrimmages here - there aren't. There's the odd exhibition game between teams, but full, game-length scrimmages are not that common - and when they do have them, they usually don't come calling for referees.
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Some of these leagues can be a real pain in the a** but most are not that bad once the guys learn you're not gonna take their sh*t. I've worked these leagues for years and I think the key to doing them is having the people running them behind your decisions. Here, when we whack a guy he usually gets a one game suspension. Depending on the severity, sometimes more. I think a lot of these guys aren't that bad if you talk to them and let them know you gonna call it firm but fair. I was wondering if anybody does a pregame meeting with captains because I really thinks that helps also. Just remember, you're aleays gonna have that one dumba** out there.
Funny story: My brother and I were doing a men's league championship game and all the guys came up to us before the game telling us how glad they were to have real refs. One player, a local high school coach ends up getting the boot after telling me we were both stupid f*ckers. He follws us to the car after the game and wants to fight. I'm 6'8" - 245 and my brother is 6'6" - 260. I'm in between these two and the guy spits on my brother. Whack, lights out! One punch and the guys out cold. Here's the kicker, he comes to and gets arrested. |
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Even funnier would be the look on his face if you 2 were ever to work one of his game during the HS season. I'd love to see his face when you guys walked on the court. I know they usually know who's working the games but maybe they don't put a face with a name.
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