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"By state association adoption, the head coach may be off the bench in front of his seat within the confines of the designated coaching box, as in 1-13-2 [coaching box defined], to give instructions to his/her players and/or substitutes. |
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The offensive coach only raised his hands, didn't swear, yell or scream. Was he inciting, or was he amazed at the fine defensive play. If he's not verbalizing, I have a problem 'Whacking' him. But then, I don't 'Whack' as often as I probably should. mick |
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i think that rook also needs to keep in mind that the rule book talks about the head coach having the privilege of the coaching box--- thus it is not a right. the box does not belong to him. as long as he is coaching his players in the box, leave him alone.
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I am west of you in Waynesville/ST. Robert area no fall rec league there are no rec's in this particular area. Frisco league Freshmen games. |
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I would like to thank all of you for your input. Some I agree with some I do not the one thing I gather from the entire situation is I will continue to eat my "Honey Nuts Cheerios" and develop. Thanks again to all.
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The problem is that a rookie hears two opposing voices and has trouble balancing them out. I speak from experience here, I've had this problem myself.
One voice says, "The rule is the rule, and you must enforce the rule. If you let them get by with it, you just make it harder for the next ref." The other voice says, "It's clear that the intent isn't to whack every (whatever infraction) defined right down to the last centimeter. You've got to let some of that stuff roll off you back, relax a little." These are said by equally experienced and elevated refs in equally uncertain circumstances, and the problem is for the rookie to sort out when to be firm and unwavering, and when to be flexible and magnanimous. Truerookie, the only thing for you to do is to go to games that are being worked by experienced refs in your area, and watch what they let go and what they crack down on. Interpretation does vary by association, and by locality. Also, note that when the coaching box is in effect, continuous standing IS legal. That's why the coaching box is for. The rule says it's not legal, but that only applies when the coaching box is not adopted in that state. If your state has the coaching box, then the coach is allowed to stand continuously, as long as he's just coaching. Also, could you please put a little more punctuation into your posts? It's a little hard to understand what you're trying to say sometimes. |
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There are ways to manage the coaching box other than a technical foul.
My pregame conference with the coaches is very brief. I maybe say three things. However, one of those things is always to remind the coach that he/she needs to stay in the box and they need to be coaching if they are up. Not only does it let some of the less knowledable ones know the rule, but it also lets them know that the crew is aware of the box and that we will be monitoring it. If the coach stands the whole time when the game begins, a quick conversation when you find yourself in front of the coach on a dead ball does wonders: "Hey coach, can you help me out on the coaching box? You can stand while coaching, but you need to sit while watching." Say it with a smile. Since it was mentioned in the pregame conference, they know what you're talking about. There are also some hand signals to use if you find yourself opposite the bench. The "wave-in" signal is almost always greeted with a coach looking down and realizing he/she is out of the box followed by a grin and them getting back in the box. The "wave-down" signal is almost always greeted with a coach immediately sitting down (or starting to coach instead of just stand). It bothers me when I work a game with a ref who says, "as long as the coaches aren't yelling at us I don't care where they are." IMHO, that's just an excuse for an official who hasn't learned how to ref more than just the 84-feet of court. Managing coaches is part of our job. If you don't monitor bench decorum and keep it under control, you probably will end up with no choice than to give a T. I prefer the preventative approach. Z |
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Au contraire! The offensive coach only raised his hands, didn't swear, yell or scream. Was he inciting, or was he amazed at the fine defensive play. If he's not verbalizing, I have a problem 'Whacking' him. But then, I don't 'Whack' as often as I probably should. mick [/B][/QUOTE] I wouldn't have thrown the T on him in a V game, but in a Freshman game, it would depend on how he has been up to that point. What I found funny was that he knew the rule almost exactly, but was upset that he got his T. The same guy got into some trouble with his V coach later that season, because as an assistant he jumped up to complain during a tight V game and got a T that didn't help their team in the least. |
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