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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
As to it being good defense, if you are saying it's "good defense" for B to knock the ball away from A by hitting A's hand while it's on the ball, we have very different definitions of good defense. How can you call B hitting A intentionally good defense?
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I'm talking about the play where B tries to tap? bump? guide? the ball away from A, and in the process B provides the force for the ball to go oob, but does it without ever touching the ball. It's a play on the ball, and the contact is incidental to the play, and A is the last one to touch, so B gets the ball for a throw-in. What's not to like?
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It's kinda hard imo to say the contact was "incidental" when B ended up gaining a definite advantage from the contact.
Incidental contact is something that doesn't affect a play. I don't think you can say that about B's contact in this particular play. The contact made A lose possession of the ball.
That's what I don't like and that's why I wouldn't give B the ball for a throw-in.
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But by rule, is your position legitimate? If you think the contact wasn't incidental, you should call a foul, right?
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Jeeze, I thought I clarified that way back......
My position is legitimate(in my mind).....but wrong by rule.
You're right, Juulie; imo the only options by rule are a foul on B1 or a B throw-in. Just my own observation, but I think that most of the time though A gets the ball back through the idea conveyed before by somebody--the principle that B1 actually caused the ball to go OOB.
Now, how does everyone else call this play in real life?
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A's ball, mainly because it's within the spirt of the rules and frankly just good old common sense.
You are penalizing who actually caused the ball to go OOBs, even if technically they were not the last to actually touch the ball, and you are not penalizing them more harshly with a foul.
Sun Jul 17, 2005, 01:58am
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