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blindzebra Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:08am

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Originally posted by Junker
I'm going to start by admitting I haven't read all 7 pages of this thread but... I look at this situation as a place to use advantage/disadvantage. If the offensive player is not protecting the ball and leaving it out where the defensive player can get to it, I'm not going to bail the offensive player out and call a foul if the defender gets some skin on the pick. That being said, if the slap is loud and everyone hears it, you better call it or you will be in for a long night. As far as A hitting B's hand and knocking the ball out of bounds, I say give it to B as long as it's not so obvious that it will get you in trouble. I have no rules book quotations behind this, just some common sense developed from my games and having others watch me work.
The rules say hitting the hand that is on the ball while playing the ball is not a foul. Strike one Junker.

Refereeing by sound will get you in trouble. Strike two.

Most officials in this thread have agreed that common sense means giving the ball back to A on a contact and the ball going directly OOB. Strike three.

Sorry Junker, but you're out.:D

Camron Rust Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:13am

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Originally posted by Junker
I'm going to start by admitting I haven't read all 7 pages of this thread but... I look at this situation as a place to use advantage/disadvantage. If the offensive player is not protecting the ball and leaving it out where the defensive player can get to it, I'm not going to bail the offensive player out and call a foul if the defender gets some skin on the pick. That being said, if the slap is loud and everyone hears it, you better call it or you will be in for a long night.
There is absolutely no justification for calling a foul just because it is loud and everyone hears it. I've actually had a broken finger from such a play (finger was bent 90 degrees in a way that it wasn't intended...ouch) and it was most certainly NOT a foul.

By calling this a foul, you make it harder for the rest of the officials that have the guts to call it right.

Don't make a call because it is what the crowd/coach expects when it is the wrong call.

Back In The Saddle Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:03pm

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Originally posted by blindzebra

Most officials in this thread have agreed that common sense means giving the ball back to A on a contact and the ball going directly OOB. Strike three.

He switched up A and B on us. He's actually agreeing with us, just doing it backwards. Foul tip; he's still battling. :D

blindzebra Fri Jul 22, 2005 04:12pm

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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
Quote:

Originally posted by blindzebra

Most officials in this thread have agreed that common sense means giving the ball back to A on a contact and the ball going directly OOB. Strike three.

He switched up A and B on us. He's actually agreeing with us, just doing it backwards. Foul tip; he's still battling. :D

Nope, still strike three since A is always the offensive player, switching them means he's out.:D


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