NCAA rule for '05

[ChuckElias]

Finally saw the rule changes for '05-'06. I like this one:

Rule 2-13.6 and 7, 4-43, 9-6 (pages 53, 84, 129). Violations when the ball has been intentionally kicked will no longer result in the reset of the shot clock to either 30 seconds (women) or 35 seconds (men). When the violation occurs with 15 or fewer seconds remaining, the shot clock will be reset to 15 seconds. Otherwise, when the violation occurs with more than 15 seconds remaining, there shall be no reset of the shot clock.
Rationale: The committees believed the penalty was too severe for the violation.

If the reaction from coaches is favorable, I bet they'll apply the same rule for fouls, as well.

[drothamel]

I like this rule change as well. Now we just have to hope the players don't try to take advantage and turn it into a (gasp!) soccer game.

[Stat-Man]

All we need know is table crew who can keep this rule straight

[zebraman]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Finally saw the rule changes for '05-'06. I like this one:

If the reaction from coaches is favorable, I bet they'll apply the same rule for fouls, as well.

I doubt it. I think that a penalty for a foul will remain more severe than the penalty for a violation.

Z

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Stat-Man
All we need know is table crew who can keep this rule straight

Don't leave your game at the table.

[Mark Dexter]

I think the bigger problem won't be the table crew - it will be the technology.

NBA shot clocks (where there is routinely a reset to 14 seconds instead of 24) that I've seen can be programmed with two times to which the clock can be reset. If you want to reset the clock to 24, press one button, if you want to reset the clock to 14, press the other.

I'm guessing most colleges won't have a system like this, and every reset to 15 seconds will be like resetting the shot clock when there's a mistake - there's usually no problem, but sometimes it takes a while, and sometimes the table forgets (or the clock is programmed wrong) and the next reset isn't to 30 or 35, but to the time from the last correction.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by zebraman

I doubt it. I think that a penalty for a foul will remain more severe than the penalty for a violation.

The penalty for the foul will still be more severe than for the violation, b/c you only get five of them before you're DQ'd, and they still count toward the bonus, obviously.

The NBA (which is where this rule comes from, of course) resets to 14 seconds on fouls or kicks in the frontcourt (assuming the shot clock is less than that when the violation or foul occurs). I expect the NCAA will follow suit if the coaches like the reset for kicks.

[TriggerMN]

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
I think the bigger problem won't be the table crew - it will be the technology.

NBA shot clocks (where there is routinely a reset to 14 seconds instead of 24) that I've seen can be programmed with two times to which the clock can be reset. If you want to reset the clock to 24, press one button, if you want to reset the clock to 14, press the other.

I'm guessing most colleges won't have a system like this, and every reset to 15 seconds will be like resetting the shot clock when there's a mistake - there's usually no problem, but sometimes it takes a while, and sometimes the table forgets (or the clock is programmed wrong) and the next reset isn't to 30 or 35, but to the time from the last correction.

This was my concern as well, Mark.

[Dribble]

We have a university gym here that can't reset their shot clock to a set time. When there have been errors, they've had to run the shot clock down to the time required, which is a HUGE pain in the butt if you need it back down to 1 sec. Taking it down to 15 sec. is a big waste of time, too.

[Mark Padgett]

At least you have clocks. When I started, we used sundials. Eventually, we moved up to hourglasses.

[ChuckElias]

That's definitely a concern of mine, too. I think the rule is good if it can be implemented without too much hassle. I think that most new scoreboards have the feature that allows you to put in two settings for the shot clock. Right now, most of the colleges that have it (that I know of) use one setting for 30 seconds and one for 35 seconds.