O.K. I'm doing the stretching religiously,(I do a lot of things religiously, actually!) and wearing great cross trainers or walking shoes or runners with really good inserts. I'm soaking in a hot tub nearly every day. I haven't been near a sweet of any kind for 7 weeks and have lost about 12 pounds. How long did it take those of you who have been down this road to get over this? I know what the Internet and my doc say. I was curious aboout your experiences.
It actually felt better when I was officiating soccer and moving more.

[Edited by refnrev on Jun 8th, 2005 at 11:11 PM]

I actually had PF during football, not basketball. Once I started using orthotics, taping my foot, and stretching afterwards, the pain was pretty much gone in a few weeks.

Custom orthotics or the ones like the new Dr. Scholl's?

It took me about a year and a half to get rid of it. My podiatrist said it was because of some street shoes I was wearing. I didn't want to believe him, but I gotta admit, when I ditched the shoes, the problem went away.

This type of swelling and pain won't usually go away right away and recovery is probably different for everyone. Sounds like you're doing alot of things right, stick with it and you get results.

What type of shoes do you wear when not working games? If possible, wear good supportive shoes ALWAYS and that will help bunches.

Are you taking anti-inflamitories? (SP?)

Good job on the 12LBS, I've done the same thing and wouldn't mind losing 12 more.

What my podiatrist says is that the most important thing for getting rid of PF is that the toe box allow ample room for your toes, especially the big toe. He thinks that if the big toe is held over toward the other toes, it aggravates the PF and then you won't get better until your toes have some time (months in my case) with more room. Here's how he told me to choose shoes. Pull out the insoles and lay them flat on the floor. Stand on them and make sure there is a margin of insole around the tracing of your foot. In other words, none of your foot, and especially the toes, should be touching the floor. There doesn't have to be a lot of extra insole, just enough to demonstrate that your feet will fit. He then showed me how to use lacing to keep my feet from sliding around. I also have orthotics, do taping, take anti-inflammatories, and stretch and ice after games. Once I got rid of the offending street shoes, it's finally starting to get under control.

My insurance wouldn't pay for custom orthotics, so the podiatrist recommended Spenco Orthotics. They're an over the counter item, usually found at independent drug stores, as opposed to chain stores. They're not the soft, cushy type. They're hard plastic with support for the arch. You can Google to learn more and to find where you can buy them online.

But truthfully, within 3-4 weeks, the inflammation was gone and I was pain free. I continue to use them now, along with better causal and work shoes, like Rockports.

You mean these?
http://www.sexyshoes.com/w5004.jpg
I don't understand how these shoes would cause foot problems...

And, yes Mark, they would look GREAT with fishnets.

Yea, I'm a fashion model in my spare time. And if you believe that, I've got some ocean front property in Oklahoma to sell real cheap.

Hey...you can't fool me!

With today's real estate prices there's no such thing as cheap ocean front property in Oklahoma!

Take a check?

Da'Feet
 

refnrev:

Just my 2 cents, but by and large, listen to the folks here.

My brother-in-law happens to be foot doctor and handles almost all the athletes at Brown University in Rhode Island. Mostly he deals with runners of all sorts and he himself has run the Boston Marathon several times including this year. Avid biker too, and handed me his older Cannondale with 25,000 miles, yes, that's 25,000, on it! So he's pretty in tune with athletes.

My point? Orthodics! It's nice to have a Dr. in the family, and he did fit me with permanent ones and what a difference. Both my kids he fit at a very early age and it corrected a lot of problems no one really saw, not to mention making ones for my son (again) who is a distance runner as well as my daugher who runs. Actually video tapes the back of your legs while you walk and then run on a treadmill. It was an interesting process to see in action.

So, there is no substitue for good orthodics. Yea, I know they can cost several hundred dollars, but I had a coach a long time ago tell us to take care of your feet or when you are older, you will pay a hefty price, not to mention that other parts of the body can hurt and one can cope with the pain, but when your feet are in pain, it's a pretty miserable life.

My orthodics are to be used in my running, hoop, and officiating shoes. They are not made for dress shoes, but he is very opinionated about wearing correct dress and casual shoes too.

I guess you could try some of the over the counter stuff, but if you want to really get rid of the pain, you need to see a foot doctor and especially one that handles a lot of runners. These guys can, and do make a real difference.

Since I got mine 2 years ago, my problem is now non-existant, but they do take a while to get used to.

goose

My doctor actually recommended the "over the counter stuff." He suggested I try them first, before spending the money since insurance wouldn't pay it. They worked great for me. But he didn't recommend the soft insoles. They're cushy but they just don't do the job.

My doctor sold me a pair of expensive "over the counter" soles. They are pre-made, but a little more adaptable. They're not anywhere near as expensive as custom made ones, but he trimmed them to fit my feet, and he made some adjustment in the arch which I didn't understand. They are great, and have lasted quite a while. The brandname is SuperFeet. I've never seen them in the stores.

Ok, patent leather high heels aside, what are orthodics and how do they help? I guess I've been lucky enough to avoid these types of problems, but every now and then I'll get sore shins, or feel a tweak in my achillies, and just wondering if it is shoe-related. I know there's no way to stop old age, but what else should I be aware of? Are these items basically well-made Dr. Scholl's insole pads, or are they more like a brace? If they fit inside your shoes, do you have to get the next size larger shoe to accomidate them? Any info would be helpful. I've found the older I get, I realize I know more than I ever did AND know way less than I thought I did.

I use SuperFeet in my Ski Boots. They're great. They have several options depending on shoe style and useage. I've not tried them in anything else yet. They're not really that expensive...under $40 for most models....one line is a bit more.

I bought them at REI. I've also seen them at other sporting goods stores such as Copeland Sports. Doing a search on the http://www.superfeet.com, they're available at dozens of places within 20 miles of my home.

Orthotics are basically insoles for your shoes. But they aren't meant to cushion the foot. They provide support for the arches and help the overall health of the foot by providing more support than a standard shoe. A lot of heel pain is caused by lack of arch support. The OTC products are usually made of hard plastic with a cloth lining.

Orthotics that are fitted by a podiatrist can cost several hundred dollars but are custom made to your foot. Actuallly, I've never seen the custom fits, so I don't know how they differ. The better OTC products will run $20 to $50 and work for many people. Others have to have the custom jobs.

[Edited by BktBallRef on Jun 9th, 2005 at 08:35 PM]

BktBallRef, and Camron - thanks. I checked out the SuperFeet website, and there are even a few dealers here in my neck of the woods in case I ever need to go that route.

Sore shins or shin splints are easiest to get rid of by exercises. Around the house, walk on your heels only, no whole foot. Never any problem again. Of course, you have to explain to your kids and your wife's friends why you are looking like a dork...

:rolleyes: I've been doin' that for years, and I haven't even started the exercises yet.

:D

I used a pair of Spenco sport insoles this weekend and could not believe how great my feet felt afterward (14 games) got them at FootAction.

It was one of the few parts of my body which didn't hurt.

I need to stop taking off those three months to coach baseball!

[Edited by stmaryrams on Jun 20th, 2005 at 01:54 PM]

Great!! Glad to hear that they worked for you!

The heel has been feeling great. Then I went out to the college soccer field and kicked the ball around with my son last night. He's working on getting ready for camp ad the Fall HS season. Today my heel feels like it's going to fall off. This getting old thing is not for sissies!

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if you believe that, I've got some ocean front property in Oklahoma to sell real cheap. [/B][/QUOTE]

Oklahoma actually has more shore line than both the east and west coasts combined. However, you won't see any surfer dudes or sharks and very little salt water.