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refTN Mon May 30, 2005 09:01pm

Who is your favorite ref or refs? It doesn't have to be recent or anything. The forum is running really slow so I just thought I would throw it out there.

I don't care whether it is an idol from your assosciation all the way up to the NBA. Everyone who officiates is fair game.

I will start off and I have a couple:

NBA: Sean Corbin for his professionalism, Zach Zarba for his age and his look, and Mike Callahan for his demeanor and height (I believe he is about 6' and that is how tall I am)

NCAA: I of course have quite a few in... you guessed it... the SEC. My mentor who I love is Jeff Smith an OVC official and a dang good official.

By the way keep your eyes out for two young guys by the names Marat Kogut and Kane Fitzgerald, they are on the up and up. You will probably see them in the SEC but not for long they will be working in the NBA I would have to say within 10 years.

tomegun Mon May 30, 2005 09:17pm

I will avoid the obvious choices that everyone knows. There is a guy out west by the name of Mike McWilliams. For whatever reason he didn't get his break, which has and will happen to a lot of deserving officials. This guy is a natural. Ability does not always get you on TV but AAR and Nevadaref will probably be able to back me up and say this guy is good.

brandan89 Mon May 30, 2005 09:36pm

There is a guy in our assosciation by the name of Shannon Cain who is a very good HighSchool and College Official. I've been to his games every time he has been around here and I was off. My first game he was my partner and we took my under his wings and I look up to him for that.

[Edited by brandan89 on Jun 2nd, 2005 at 02:32 AM]

Victor74 Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:58am

NBA: Sean Corbin for his professionalism, Zach Zarba for his age and his look, and Mike Callahan for his demeanor and height (I believe he is about 6' and that is how tall I am)


I will second Sean Corbin (nothing wrong with Zarba or Callahan). I watch the officials during NBA games and I always enjoy watching games he officiates. Hope to see him in a Finals game.

brianp134 Thu Jun 02, 2005 07:32am

Quote:

Originally posted by refTN
Who is your favorite ref or refs? It doesn't have to be recent or anything. The forum is running really slow so I just thought I would throw it out there.

I don't care whether it is an idol from your assosciation all the way up to the NBA. Everyone who officiates is fair game.

I will start off and I have a couple:

NBA: Sean Corbin for his professionalism, Zach Zarba for his age and his look, and Mike Callahan for his demeanor and height (I believe he is about 6' and that is how tall I am)

NCAA: I of course have quite a few in... you guessed it... the SEC. My mentor who I love is Jeff Smith an OVC official and a dang good official.

By the way keep your eyes out for two young guys by the names Marat Kogut and Kane Fitzgerald, they are on the up and up. You will probably see them in the SEC but not for long they will be working in the NBA I would have to say within 10 years.

RefTN

I agree with you, Marat is a good official, & he is also a good guy. We are in the same JUCO conference.

Dan_ref Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:07am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by brianp134
Quote:

RefTN

I agree with you, Marat is a good official, & he is also a good guy. We are in the same JUCO conference.
He's also a decent magician ;)

ChuckElias Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:08am

My favorite ref is Dan. He's the only one who ever buys me Diet Cokes.

Dan_ref Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:56am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
My favorite ref is Dan. He's the only one who ever buys me Diet Cokes.
And my favorite ref is Chuck. He's the only one that doesn't ask for a double shot of Jack with his diet coke.

Mark Padgett Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:58am

There's only one guy I'd rate above Earl Strom - Mendy Rudolph. He was the absolute poster boy for an NBA ref. His demeanor on the court just shouted professionalism.

In his book, Strom indicates Sid Borgia was the best ever, but I never saw him work.

I'd probably rate myself third. :rolleyes:

SeanFitzRef Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:02pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Victor74
NBA: Sean Corbin for his professionalism, Zach Zarba for his age and his look, and Mike Callahan for his demeanor and height (I believe he is about 6' and that is how tall I am)


I will second Sean Corbin (nothing wrong with Zarba or Callahan). I watch the officials during NBA games and I always enjoy watching games he officiates. Hope to see him in a Finals game.

NBA: Dan Crawford, Mark Davis (HS alums), Joe Crawford, and Steve Jaffe.

College: Ed Hightower, Ted Valentine

Up and Comers: Kevin Dillard (awesome feel for the game, great flow and judgement)

brianp134 Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:20pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by brianp134
Quote:

RefTN

I agree with you, Marat is a good official, & he is also a good guy. We are in the same JUCO conference.
He's also a decent magician ;)
Yes he is.

Jurassic Referee Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:32pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
There's only one guy I'd rate above Earl Strom - Mendy Rudolph. He was the absolute poster boy for an NBA ref. His demeanor on the court just shouted professionalism.

In his book, Strom indicates Sid Borgia was the best ever, but I never saw him work.


I saw all three of them in action. All great officials but I gotta agree with you about Rudolph being the best. He certainly was the most respected official of his era.

The difference between Rudolph and Borgia? When fans got on Rudolph, he used a little move where he'd kinda face them and wipe the sweat off of his forehead, with the middle finger sticking out of the wiping hand. When fans got on Borgia, he'd just turn around and tell them to "f**k off". I'm not sure which move I liked better.

My own, personal favorite official in the NBA was, and is, a guy called Manny Sokol. Worked back in the 70's and early 80's. Not one of the top officials at all, but he was as funny as hell to watch. He literally threw himself into every call. Didn't matter how routine the call was, Manny was gonna sell it big time. Imagine a punch-drunk ex-pug trying to referee a game while little birdies were flying by his head--that was Manny.

Mark Dexter Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:32pm

NBA - Matt Boland. I don't watch the NBA, but we're both alums of the same high school.

NCAA - My favorites to work with were always Reggie Greenwood (who has one of the best on-court personalities ever) and Donnie Gray (with whom I worked last summer), both of whom live in the D.C. area.

On the women's side, one of my favorite to watch/work with is Bryan Burnette. Great crisp mechanics, his calls seem to be perfect, and he never draws attention to himself. (When a game is going to h***, the coaches usually are screaming at his partners, but say nothing to him.)

JugglingReferee Thu Jun 02, 2005 01:30pm

NBA: Strom, Bavetta, Corbin.

NCAA: Foxcroft, Honig. The other obvious choices too.

NFL: Hochuli. He really is the only choice. And everyone knows it.

NHL: Scapinello. As far as linesmen go, he re-wrote the book. I'd put him in the top 3 officials of all time, for any sport.

MLB: Don't know alot of these guys.

Mark Padgett Thu Jun 02, 2005 01:32pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee


My own, personal favorite official in the NBA was, and is, a guy called Manny Sokol. Worked back in the 70's and early 80's. Not one of the top officials at all, but he was as funny as hell to watch. He literally threw himself into every call. Didn't matter how routine the call was, Manny was gonna sell it big time. Imagine a punch-drunk ex-pug trying to referee a game while little birdies were flying by his head--that was Manny.

I remember Sokol. You are absolutely correct about his demeanor on the court. He was great fun to watch. I always thought of him as kind of a pudgy Daffy Duck.

BTW - how could I leave the Immortal Dave off the list? I guess this last lobotomy isn't taking hold.

Mark Dexter Thu Jun 02, 2005 01:33pm

Quote:

Originally posted by JugglingReferee

NFL: Hochuli. He really is the only choice. And everyone knows it.

Got that right. I didn't even think to expand outside of basketball.

Jurassic Referee Thu Jun 02, 2005 01:42pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
[/B]
I remember Sokol. You are absolutely correct about his demeanor on the court. He was great fun to watch. I always thought of him as <font color = red>kind of a pudgy Daffy Duck</font>.

[/B][/QUOTE]Luv it. That might just be the most accurate description of Manny refereeing as possible. :D

On second thought, an even better description of Manny might be that he was the spittin' image of Hector on the old Tweetybird cartoons.

http://www.everwonder.com/david/tweety/t4.gif

A nervous Hector.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Jun 2nd, 2005 at 02:55 PM]

sleebo Sun Jun 05, 2005 08:48pm

I got the opportunity to go down to the Bob Gibbons Tournament of Champions last weekend and work. I talked to Marat on the phone in registering to work the event and I met both Marat and Kane at the tournament. I would agree that they are good dudes and definitely are destined for officiating success. As for my two cents on the thread:

NBA: Dan Crawford
NCAA: Joe Lindsay (one word-calm), Doug Shows, Mike Stuart, Lisa Mattingly, Tina Napier
MLB: Sam Holbrook, Randy Marsh
NFL: Hochuli (the best in the league, period)

Luis Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:13am

My favorite
 
NBA: Dick Bavetta, Joe Crawford & Zach Zarba. Sometimes, Violet Palmer, she's great.

tjones1 Thu Feb 02, 2006 01:04am

Quote:

Originally posted by refTN
Who is your favorite ref or refs? It doesn't have to be recent or anything. The forum is running really slow so I just thought I would throw it out there.

I don't care whether it is an idol from your assosciation all the way up to the NBA. Everyone who officiates is fair game.

I will start off and I have a couple:

NBA: Sean Corbin for his professionalism, Zach Zarba for his age and his look, and Mike Callahan for his demeanor and height (I believe he is about 6' and that is how tall I am)

NCAA: I of course have quite a few in... you guessed it... the SEC. My mentor who I love is Jeff Smith an OVC official and a dang good official.

By the way keep your eyes out for two young guys by the names Marat Kogut and Kane Fitzgerald, they are on the up and up. You will probably see them in the SEC but not for long they will be working in the NBA I would have to say within 10 years.

Hey, the Ohio Valley was mentioned... don't hear much news from the OVC. I am currently attending an OVC school. Nice to see some of the OVC officials mentioned.

Raymond Fri Apr 28, 2006 02:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanFitzRef
College: Ed Hightower, Ted Valentine

Aren't they the same person??? :confused:

rockyroad Fri Apr 28, 2006 03:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
My favorite ref is Dan. He's the only one who ever buys me Diet Cokes.

Hey! I bought you a diet coke AND clam chowder! Doesn't that count for anything??:D

ChuckElias Fri Apr 28, 2006 04:27pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad
Hey! I bought you a diet coke AND clam chowder! Doesn't that count for anything??:D

DJ, I made that post almost a year ago!! Before the chowdah. :) You are now tied with Dan for my favorite official. Besides, Dan hasn't bought me any drinks in almost 2 years now. :mad:

And who the dexter is digging up all these old threads, anyway?!?!

M&M Guy Fri Apr 28, 2006 04:54pm

Chuck - when did you move? I noticed the slight change in your "location".

And, more importantly - do you have pictures from your neighborhood?

Dan_ref Fri Apr 28, 2006 06:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad
Hey! I bought you a diet coke AND clam chowder! Doesn't that count for anything??:D

Ahhhh Rock, you can't buy love.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Besides, Dan hasn't bought me any drinks in almost 2 years now. :mad:

See?

ChuckElias Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:44am

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Chuck - when did you move? I noticed the slight change in your "location".

Sadly, my location will revert to its "normal" status tomorrow. :(

tomegun Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:53am

Chuck, are you on a cruise or did you fly down? I'm going on a Southern Caribbean cruise at the beginning of June and I can't wait.

BktBallRef Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:59am

http://images.sportsline.com/u/photo...img8262708.jpg

Blane Reichelt. :)

When I visual Chuck, I see Blane Reichelt, although Blane is much taller. :D

Carbide Keyman Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:21pm

$.02 worth .............................
 
My favorite official in the NBA would be the official who would have the stones to call traveling on the superstars on a regular basis.

"King" LeBron should pack luggage on his last two scoring forays last night.



Doug

ChuckElias Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:43pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
http://images.sportsline.com/u/photo...img8262708.jpg
When I visual Chuck, I see Blane Reichelt, although Blane is much taller. :D

But Chuck has more hair.

ChuckElias Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:45pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun
Chuck, are you on a cruise or did you fly down? I'm going on a Southern Caribbean cruise at the beginning of June and I can't wait.

Cruised. Key West, Grand Cayman and Cozumel. Cozumel was a pit, and I don't think it was all due to hurricane damage.

tomegun Sat Apr 29, 2006 09:00pm

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Cruised. Key West, Grand Cayman and Cozumel. Cozumel was a pit, and I don't think it was all due to hurricane damage.

Wow, I did Montego Bay, Grand Cayman and Cozumel before. I have no desire to go to Grand Cayman again, but I had fun in Cozumel. What cruise line are you on? We did our first two on Carnival, but our last one was on Royal Caribbean and that is what we are going on this time.

Camron Rust Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:46pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun
Wow, I did Montego Bay, Grand Cayman and Cozumel before. I have no desire to go to Grand Cayman again, but I had fun in Cozumel. What cruise line are you on? We did our first two on Carnival, but our last one was on Royal Caribbean and that is what we are going on this time.

Grand Cayman can be great depending on the reason you go. The landscape is not particularly interesting nor is the beach all that spectacular...I wouldn't know about the nightlife since that's not my thing). But, if you're into scuba diving, WOW! It is absolutely unbelieveable....escpecially on the east end of the island (away from the cruise port). It's one of the top places in the world for that. My wife and I spent a week there in 2003...half in Georgetown and half in East End. We much preferred the latter. It was relaxing, quiet, few people, great service, and amazing diving....except for the day tropical storm Bill decided to kick up the seas...nothing like climbing aboard a 40' boat in 12 ft. seas while wearing scuba gear.

BktBallRef Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:29pm

Would you recommend Royal Carribbean over Carnival?

ChuckElias Sun Apr 30, 2006 07:02am

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Originally Posted by tomegun
Wow, I did Montego Bay, Grand Cayman and Cozumel before. I have no desire to go to Grand Cayman again, but I had fun in Cozumel.

Well, to be fair, the only part of Cozumel that I saw was the "shopping district" right at the port area. We walked about a mile along the main drag of town and it was just ugly and every door had a shopkeeper saying "Come in, best prices. Don't you want low prices?" Ugh. Never again. Plus, the place still hasn't fully recovered from last year's hurricane season. It was only the second time since the hurricane that our ship had been back to Cozumel. So it wasn't pretty at all.

Quote:

What cruise line are you on?
Disney. We had my daughter and my sister has two boys, so we did a Disney cruise. Loved it. In addition to the "normal" ports of call, we had a day on "Castaway Cay", which is Disney's private island in the Bahamas. It was a great time, and I'd definitely recommend it for anyone with kids. In fact, we met a couple who regularly cruise Disney even tho they have no kids yet. Kind of funny.

tnzebra Tue May 02, 2006 08:10am

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
Got that right. I didn't even think to expand outside of basketball.

Mike Carey is right up there IMO.

bradfordwilkins Fri Jan 15, 2010 06:11pm

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Originally Posted by refTN (Post 233523)

By the way keep your eyes out for two young guys by the names Marat Kogut and Kane Fitzgerald, they are on the up and up. You will probably see them in the SEC but not for long they will be working in the NBA I would have to say within 10 years.


Just to bring back an old thread... both Marat and Kane just made the League this year.

jdw3018 Fri Jan 15, 2010 06:44pm

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Originally Posted by bradfordwilkins (Post 652198)
Just to bring back an old thread... both Marat and Kane just made the League this year.

Nice...love when old threads like this appear...especially to share fun news like that. Obviously refTN has a good eye.

bradfordwilkins Fri Jan 15, 2010 06:53pm

I thought it was funny that 4 years earlier it was predicted and they both arrived together...


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