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Estimates please. How many times, in an average B.B game, does an official blow the whistle?
Question: Would you use a electronic whistle? If it fit well on your hand and wrist (part glove part wrist band) and was not cumbersome. A speaker disposed on the backhand side of the unit, and a momentary switch on the lower palm area on the front of the unit. There is a time delay function that eliminates sounding of whistle on unintented strike ( when catching ball for example), will sound on continued pressure only, while allowing a repeating aspect. To "blow whistle" you would simply close hand and press switch with fingertips. The sound would be a digital recording at same decibel level as a typical fox when blown hard. This would free hands and mouth. Be much cleaner and sanitary. No lanyard around neck and no fumbling around to sound whistle. Would not have to rely on the breath of winded official. Would you use one? TIA |
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We could also use such a device to stop and start the clock with another switch. We could also keep track of points on the scoreboard . . . . . 8-b |
Don't like it
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To be honest, this would suck.
You would never know which official blew their whistle/horn. Besides, schools won't buy shot clocks why would they buy these things? |
Gentalmen, a Thomas Edison wannabee.
If you will please, how many times a game do you blow? Thanks. Brian, you would know which official blew, just like you do now. It comes from them, on their wrist. A loud signal. Shot clocks are much more exspensive. Schools might want to consider the OFFICIAL WHISTLE for hygene sake alone. I just wanted to know if you, (the official) not schools, would use one or buy one. I see the sweat and spit and saliva and other contaminants transfered from all players, refs, the floor, and the ball - directly to the officials mouth. This would free your hands and mouth. Just an honest question. If this was available in a fair price range, and a very good design, would you want one or use one? Why woudn't this be benifical to the game? |
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Not feasible
<html>In theory...perhaps a good idea. In reality, I honestly don't think it would work. How many times have we seen a game where a mechanical failure of some sort holds up the game. Football, basketball, and hockey alike all have many times in a season that there's a 'mechanical' timeout (shotclock, scoreboard, horn...). What if your 'whistle' goes bad with 30 seconds on the clock with a tie game and you don't realize until you need to sound yours to signal that the last second basket wasn't any good...or to call a last second foul...or...well, you get the picture. Something that small and delicate is only prone to problems...and criticism. I don't think it would fly in the world of the Fox 40.<br><br>by the way, I'd estimate a good 50 blows per game.</html>
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Talking about blowing...I've notice some officials blow their whistle everytime (and I mean everytime) they have a throw-in situation. This isn't Volleyball where you have to blow your whistle all the time.
My understanding is that the only time you have to blow your whistle on a throw-in situation is after a time out or start of a new quarter. Someone once said they do it so that everyone is aware you are going to put the ball into play. A good argument? Regarding the electric whistle, what about officials that sweat alot, wouldn't they shock themselves..oh wait, we don't sweat, we perspire :) |
A) I never touch the part of the whistle that goes in my mouth during the game, so sanitary reasons really don't apply. When the game is over it goes into a ziplock (<u>the</u> greatest invention in history), so it doesn't really mingle with the sweaty stuff.
B) I don't know what a reasonable price is but it would have to be cheap enough to buy two. I never walk on the floor without two whistles, and those don't have any mechanical parts. If you expect the schools to buy them, I think it would be worse than officials trying to maintain their own. Look at how well scoreboards work. C) Would it recharge or be battery operated? I think multiple batteries would add uneeded size and weight and would make me go broke replacing them. Can you see an official time out with 9 seconds to go in a tied game to replace the batteries? Decent theory, but in this case I think fox has the better mousetrap. Try the NBA, they always like new toys + they can afford them. |
Suppref. 1)1/50 of a second (approx. ) 2) No. 3) $35.00 - you would need batteries and possibly charger, depending on design factors; battery life being considered long -more than one game. @ 50 blows a game 140 games would be 7,000 blows. The OFFICIAL WHISTLE would be designed for a 100k plus blow life.
Dan. I have seen officials fumble with whistles many a time and fail to sound in time to stop play. This accually eliminates any of that fumbling around, it is direct. Size matters, ha ha - The OFFICAL WHISTLE is fit nicely on the hand and wrist and is very durable and reliant. This is a very simple design and employes reliable components. Not at all like the electronic equipment - scorebords, shot clocks, ect... Thanks for the estimate. Brian and others. You can always carry a fox in your pocket for security sake. Thanks for your honest and straigtforward replies. Running the battery dead would be a concern if the official did not check batteries at appropriate times. Like smoke detectors. Is not having to handel and have a whistle in your mouth alot any advantage? Comfort? Worth the extra investment? Not? |
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As was mentioned earlier, normally only need to blow your whistle on a throw-in after a timeout or to start a new quarter. Also after any unusual delay in getting things going again, such as player injury, player loses a contact, coach-referee conference, if the ball rolls out hte doorway and halfway down the hall, etc... Although come to think of it, most all these things fall under some sort of timeout (team or official) so may be the original rule pretty much covers most cases. |
Denny,
Generally speaking, there are three times when you should blow your whistle on a throw-in. 1. After a timeout 2. To start a quarter or half. 3. After undue delay (injury, tech. foul, etc.) The whole purpose is to signal that play is about to resume. |
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"Ri'm rorry, Reorge. Ri ron't rike rhe ridea!" |
I'm with Brian
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The Fox40 blows but your idea sucks! :) [Edited by BktBallRef on Mar 28th, 2001 at 09:46 PM] |
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Nothing personal, but replies like that sure do reek of the "no outsiders" attitude. If others (non-officials) choose to visit our website and ask for our opinions or thoughts, we should oblige. |
I wouldn't use it
but somebody else might. I wouldn't pay $35+ for a gadget plus batteries and a charger when I can use a cheaper and proven fox 40 for $4.50. Also, on more of a side bar, we are referee's. We BLOW a whistle just like football, volleyball, etc.. too much of a hassle to change something so important to the game - and too much room for error.
By the way, in women's NCAA, the Lead official blows the whistle before administering a throw-in on the baseline or on the sideline, free-throw line and down as long as the ball is staying in the frontcourt. This may be why you we hear the whistle more often. |
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Nothing personal but that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. |
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I think that would cause problems. The only sport this might have a chance in is volleyball, even then I would be leary of using it. |
Steven,
When blowing the whistle, the last thing that the official normally does is put air in the whistle. Before that, a hand or fist is being raised as a mechanic. By blowing last, it gives the official one last split second to reconsider what he/she has seen and maybe allow the game to continue. The way you described your PRODUCT, whenever a fist was clenched around the sensors the device would sound. This would take away the last chance for making a call that should not be made. This would be a product much more feasible for other sports, such as football or volleyball, where the action is dead normally before the official needs to sound his whistle. I would not consider using this for basketball, unless it was hoop-it-up. |
Bigwhistle- excellent reasoning!
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Bigwhistle,
You are right on the money, as I was reading the replies, I kept thinking about our mechanics, Blow whistle, raise hand and point or give some sort of single. I think having something on the wrist or palm would get in the way. What about the official who makes the block call and sells it. I don't know about everyone else, but if I go to give the block signal with some authority, I have probably broke this device! AK ref SE |
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