Rules of Pivoting - Page 6

ysong · #76 (**permalink**) Mon May 16, 2005, 11:53pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Camron Rust

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You mean to tell me that if a player, after having caught the ball by the basket, first lands on the "red" foot right, jumps 2-3 feet straight up (as if to shoot but realizes B will block it), then lands in essentially the same spot on the "green" foot, you're going to allow it?

May I tentatively add something? if that player "then lands in essentially the same spot on both the "green" foot and "red" foot simultaneously", life may be easier for the refs.

rainmaker · #77 (**permalink**) Mon May 16, 2005, 11:59pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias

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Originally posted by Camron Rust
You mean to tell me that if a player, after having caught the ball by the basket, first lands on the "red" foot right, jumps 2-3 feet straight up (as if to shoot but realizes B will block it), then lands in essentially the same spot on the "green" foot, you're going to allow it?

Honestly, I did not envision a play the way you're describing it.

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If they're "stepping" as in a layup and both feet are momentarily off the ground, that is fine, but a step is not the same as a jump.

How are you going to adjudicate that? How are you going to tell a coach, "No, coach, his pivot never came down. But it's a travel anyway"? How are we to distinguish between a step when both feet are momentarily off the ground and a jump when both feet are momentarily off the ground?

By the height of the step?
By the direction of the step?
By the intent of the stepper?

I just don't see how you're supposed to split that hair. If the pivot foot does not come down, then it's not a travel, IMHO.

Theoretically, I agree with Chuck, but in practice I think I would call it just because it looks funny. I'd be willing to bet (if I wasn't a Quaker) that 98% of other refs would, too. Hmmm...

M&M Guy · #78 (**permalink**) Tue May 17, 2005, 11:10am

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Originally posted by rainmaker
I'd be willing to bet (if I wasn't a Quaker) that 98% of other refs would, too. Hmmm...

I'll bet you a quarter you're really a bettin' person...

I happen to agree that if I see something unusual happen, and I can't easily turn around and explain to a coach quickly how it was a legal move, then it's a travel. Sometimes it's fun to disect all the posibilities, but it still boils down to making that split-second decision during the game. Find and know which foot is the pivot foot, and the rest is (relatively) easy.

Now what am I going to do if their feet aren't painted red or green?...

Lotto · #79 (**permalink**) Tue May 17, 2005, 03:32pm

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Originally posted by M&M Guy
Now what am I going to do if their feet aren't painted red or green?...

Now why do I think that's a funny question to be asked by someone called "M&M Guy"?