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ChuckElias Wed May 11, 2005 01:24pm

Quote:

Originally posted by tomegun
Also, I will call Zack Zarba today (yes I have his number), get his email address
I have his email address. Wanna trade? :)

<font size = -2>(Just kidding, btw. I'm not sharing anybody's personal info.)</font>

refTN Wed May 11, 2005 02:01pm

You guys are right, I am trying to learn as much as I can and like I said in my very first post I don't totally agree with this, it is a walk plain and simple and I have had calls like this before and called it a walk everytime, I was just putting this in there to see how you guys react and see what you guys really thought about it.

I was learning from every word you guys said, I used this as a learning tool to see what the majority thought and kept it going just to see if more would get involved in the topic and agree with this no call.

I know most guys on here are some type of college officials and I apologize for getting you all hyped up and upset about the topic but I had to see how you guys truly felt about the call, and see if you could at all see it the other way.

I hope there are no hard feelings. I gurantee you if that situation ever happens to me you will see me call a walk.

Thanks for the insight. I apologize again.

rwest Wed May 11, 2005 02:43pm

How about the other clips?
 
I had....

Hold Clip ====> Jump Ball
Block or Charge Clip =====> Player Control
Rebounding ======> Push on GA player
Double Foul ======> Push on GT - I thought the push on GT should have been called, but if they passed on that I don't see a double foul here. The GT player did nothing while he was on the ground. It looked like the Duke player thought he was in a wrestling match.

Anyone disagree with these calls?


rwest Wed May 11, 2005 02:57pm

Question on the traveling call
 
When both feet are on the ground when a player receives the ball, what determines the pivot foot? Doesn't the player have to pick up on foot completely off the floor? Or does simply lifting the heal and balancing on the toes of one foot make the other foot the pivot?

I know the above does not apply in this case, but the video started me thinking. When I first saw it I thought both feet where on the floor and I couldn't tell if he ever lifted the right foot completely. After looking at it several times it seems to me that the right foot touched down after the left, making the left the pivot.

Thanks!
Randall

Snake~eyes Wed May 11, 2005 03:11pm

Re: How about the other clips?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rwest
I had....

Hold Clip ====> Jump Ball
Block or Charge Clip =====> Player Control
Rebounding ======> Push on GA player
Double Foul ======> Push on GT - I thought the push on GT should have been called, but if they passed on that I don't see a double foul here. The GT player did nothing while he was on the ground. It looked like the Duke player thought he was in a wrestling match.

Anyone disagree with these calls?


There are threads dedicated to each video clip. Check them out.

rwest Wed May 11, 2005 03:59pm

Thanks, I didnt know
 
I must have overlooked them. I'll check them out.

Thanks!

Camron Rust Fri May 13, 2005 02:23am

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Originally posted by refTN
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I know most guys on here are some type of college officials and I apologize for getting you all hyped up and upset about the topic but I had to see how you guys truly felt about the call, and see if you could at all see it the other way.

I hope you don't beleive that. Thre may be some college officials here...there may even be several. But, it is far from most.

Also, there are many of HS officials that are better than the small time college officials and even some big time college officials but have careers that don't permit them to take off the time required for college schedules. There is no way I could make the travel time for any weekday game around here. I don't get off work until 5-6pm or later. No chance of driving 1-5 hours to a game. There are a few people I know that work college that aren't great but have no limits on their schedule.

There are others that post here that are quite happy to embellish their ability and magnatude of games they get.

[Edited by Camron Rust on May 13th, 2005 at 05:47 PM]

refTN Fri May 13, 2005 10:12am

You're right Camron. I should have said the guys that I was debating with such as Jurassic, and Dan and tomegun. I mean I assume they are in college since one has an NBA officials phone number, and the others post here so much and have so much incite on every topic.

ChuckElias Fri May 13, 2005 10:25am

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Originally posted by refTN
Jurassic, and Dan and tomegun. I mean I assume they are in college since one has an NBA officials phone number, and the others post here so much and have so much incite on every topic.
What am I? Chopped liver? I got 5700 posts. I got an NBA ref's email address. I incite lots of topics!!

refTN Fri May 13, 2005 11:04am

My bad Chuck did not mean to leave anyone out. DANG you do have a lot of posts. How old are you? Just playin

ChuckElias Fri May 13, 2005 12:21pm

I'm older than I once was, but younger than I'll be. That's not unusual.

M&M Guy Fri May 13, 2005 12:30pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
I'm older than I once was, but younger than I'll be. That's not unusual.
And don't forget, as time goes on, the percentage difference between those younger, and you, decreases. So that means they get closer to being old faster than you.

(I forgot, did I take my meds this morning?)

Dan_ref Fri May 13, 2005 12:32pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
I'm older than I once was, but younger than I'll be. That's not unusual.
No it isn't strange, after changes upon changes, we are more or less the same

After changes we are more or less the same.........

:)

M&M Guy Fri May 13, 2005 12:39pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
I'm older than I once was, but younger than I'll be. That's not unusual.
No it isn't strange, after changes upon changes, we are more or less the same

After changes we are more or less the same.........

:)

li la li...


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