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ref18 Mon Apr 18, 2005 08:26pm

I just did a cash game tonight. The fee for each official is $22. So for two it should be $44.

Before the game the coach hands me a bag of cash that contains $54. He says that should cover it, he just got it from the manager.


What do you do?? :cool:

rainmaker Mon Apr 18, 2005 08:29pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
I just did a cash game tonight. The fee for each official is $22. So for two it should be $44.

Before the game the coach hands me a bag of cash that contains $54. He says that should cover it, he just got it from the manager.


What do you do?? :cool:

You ask him what the extra $10 is for -- you want to know ahead of time what you're expected to deliver and this isn't the amount you bargained for.

WeekendRef Mon Apr 18, 2005 08:48pm

Shouldn't be a question
 
I think you know the answer to this already....take the $10 and buy a six pack of Pepsi .
Seriously - The fact that you are asking the question means that you know the right thing to do .Let the guy know that there is $10 extra dollars in there and ask that he return it to the manager and the next time you see the manager ask him if he got back the extra $10 that was left in the bag....As you know you can never trust those coaches:)

Dan_ref Mon Apr 18, 2005 08:58pm

Reminds me of an old joke.

A man of a particular ethnic persuasion was having a disussion with his young son concerning ethics. The son asked him what is meant by the term "moral dilemma". The father answered as follows:

"Abie my son, you know that your Uncle Herbie and I are partners in a clothing store on the lower east side?"

"Yes Pappa, a fine store it is!" replied the son.

"Well son, here's an example of a moral dilemma. Imagine a rich shiksah from the upper east side comes into our store and buys a hat for her husband."

"OK Pappa."

"Now imagine the hat costs $40."

"Oh pappa, that is an expensive hat!"

"Yes Abie, it is. Now imagine the woman pays with two twenty dollar bills and leaves with her purchase."

"Oh Pappa, I do hope she comes again!!"

"Yes my son. Now Abie, imagine that as you put the money in the cash register you notice that there's a $100 bill stuck between the twenties."

"Oi gevald Pappa, how could that be??!"

"Yes my son, it is terrible. And now here's the dilemma: Do you tell your Uncle Herbie about the extra 100?"


26 Year Gap Mon Apr 18, 2005 09:03pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
I just did a cash game tonight. The fee for each official is $22. So for two it should be $44.

Before the game the coach hands me a bag of cash that contains $54. He says that should cover it, he just got it from the manager.


What do you do?? :cool:

You call the game fairly as you would any other game. ;)

Mark Dexter Mon Apr 18, 2005 09:49pm

The fact that he handed you a bag of cash concerns me a bit more than the extra ten bucks. Were these all small, unmarked bills?

rainmaker Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:37pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
The fact that he handed you a bag of cash concerns me a bit more than the extra ten bucks. Were these all small, unmarked bills?
I was thinking jingle, jingle, jingle...

canuckrefguy Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:36am

44 bucks? Must be a pretty small bag....

You tell him he must have mis-counted, and you give him the $10 back.

JRutledge Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:38am

Take the money and do what I normally would do. Call the game and go home.

Peace

canuckrefguy Tue Apr 19, 2005 01:15am

I don't understand why you wouldn't give the extra $10 back. :confused:

It's hardly a huge moral dilemma, and obviously not an attempt to bribe or anything like that (if it is, it's a pathetic attempt at bribery :D). Someone obviously just counted the cash wrong. What's the big deal about giving back the extra fin?

I'm thinking if you fess up, some good karma will be headed your way later on :)

Back In The Saddle Tue Apr 19, 2005 01:38am

It's simple math really, which is worth more? $10 or your integrity?

som44 Tue Apr 19, 2005 06:26am

Simple--no thought--give back $10.00

bob jenkins Tue Apr 19, 2005 07:19am

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Originally posted by canuckrefguy
What's the big deal about giving back the extra fin?


If you give back the extra fin, what do you do with the other $5? ;)


ChrisSportsFan Tue Apr 19, 2005 07:48am

Do you think it could be possible that you were being tested?

"Let's see how trustworthy this guy really is and throw an extra $10. in his pay and see if he's honest".

If you keep it, just don't get mad if you lose some $ in the near future. Like others have said; integrity and karma are more important to me. Who knows, they might have said that they changed their rate and the $ is yours, then you would have this hanging over you.

BktBallRef Tue Apr 19, 2005 07:48am

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Originally posted by JRutledge
Take the money and do what I normally would do. Call the game and go home.
Good ole' honest Abe from Illinois. :(

I\'ve thought a lot of things about you. But I never thought that you were dishonest. Guess I was wrong.


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