This is a case book situation(4.19.6A). A1 airborne shooter is fouled and then he commits a pc foul before he lands. The ruling does say that A1 shoots 2 shots. Do the players occupy the lane spaces or do you clear the lane for A1's ft's then award B the ball for an oob throw in?

The latter. If A1's last throw is good, B can run the baseline. If not, it's a spot throw-in. (The last two sentences assume that the baseline is the spot nearest A1's foul.)

Has anyone ever called a foul on B2 for hitting the shooter while airborne then right after called a PC foul on A1 for running into B1. I have not ever had that occur, I was just curious if this is very common.

Last year.

A1 gets whacked on the arm going up, which had no impact on horizontal movement.

A1 then ploughs into B1 who had roots.

No argument from anyone.

did you make both of the calls or did one of your partners pick up the other one

I've never called it, but when I picture the scenario in my head it seems most likely to occur with the calls split up. T calls a hack on B1 on the drive to the hoop starting from his primary while the L has B2 taking the charge in the paint because he was following the defender. It could be different, but that seems most likely. Peace.

I had it in a state playoff game. I (C) called the foul on B1 and then A1 PC into B2 called by the lead. Ball went in. Waived it off, A1 two free throws (made both), B ball with ability to run the endline. Had to explain it but neither coach had a problem. Could maybe argue that L should not have called across the lane but oh well, it was PC.

I made both.

Did you double fist? :p

Naturally. :D

I took the test today.
 

Well, my teacher was studpid and gave us the wrong question. He meant, who was the frist coach. And the answer to that question is Phog Allen.

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Phog? PHOG!?!? And I thought Padgett was kidding when he said the first bball player was Og!

Bob:

Isn't this situation a false double foul meaning that the fouls are penalized in the order that they occured with the penalty for the last foul be administered as if this were the only foul committed?

MTD, Sr.

Yes. The last foul was the PC. The penalty is the ball OOB. And, it also might follow a basket. So, B gets to run the end-line. There's a specific case on this, iirc.

Can a basket be scored on a play where a PC is committed?

no, but he was also fouled in the act of shooting and the defense doesn't get off for that. A1 was fouled while shooting, he gets free throws. No basket on the PC, so he gets 2. This one actually makes sense to me. Peace.

NF and NCAAW - no... but can't you have a PC and score the basket in NCAAM???

No. It's not a PC foul in NCAAM if the ball is released before the foul by the airborne shooter.

The airborne shooter has already released the ball, by definition.

Ok so Bob just so I think I understand everything here, and correct me if I'm wrong. A1 goes up for a layup, gets hacked from behind by B1, and then PCs into B2. We have a false double foul, A1 gets 2 shots, and Team B gets ball OOB, with either baseline running or not depending on the result of the second foul shot. In addition, both A1 and B1 get personals, and Team A and Team B each get a Team Foul.

Let me further change the sitch for a second. A1 is driving but is fouled before the shot by B1 (no bonus), takes one step, and then PCs into B2. The way I see it there are 3 possible solutions here, and I have no clue which one is correct so help...

1) Team A gets ball OOB b/c of foul on B1.
2) Team B gets ball OOB b/c of PC on A1.
3) AP--go w/ the arrow.

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Let me further change the sitch for a second. A1 is driving but is fouled before the shot by B1 (no bonus), takes one step, and then PCs into B2. The way I see it there are 3 possible solutions here, and I have no clue which one is correct so help... 1) Team A gets ball OOB b/c of foul on B1. 2) Team B gets ball OOB b/c of PC on A1. 3) AP--go w/ the arrow.

In this situation, the ball became dead on B1's foul. A1's foul is ignored unless it's intentional or flagrant (and, since you "called" it a PC, it can't be either of those). Go with option 1, and no foul on A1.

The answer is 1). When B1 fouls A1 BEFORE the shot (that is the key) the ball becomes dead. The PC on A1 is ignored unless the foul is judged to be flagrant or intentional. Team A gets a spot throw-in nearest the foul.

If the PC was judged to be flagrant then B gets a team foul, A gets a team foul, if it was flagrant A1 is disqualified, either way B2 gets two free throws with the lane cleared and team B gets a spot throw-in nearest the foul.