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rainmaker Tue Apr 05, 2005 02:34pm

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Originally posted by TubbyRules
Not complaining or anything I just enjoy seeing the media sticking up for us ...
This board is for officials, and officials don't care who wins. Officials know that other officials don't care who wins. By using the word "us" in the above sentence, you are clearly stating that you do care who wins. Thus, you are not an official (for purposes of posting about Kentucky), and do not belong on this baord.

Thank you, that is all.

Camron Rust Tue Apr 05, 2005 06:38pm

Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by TubbyRules
Not complaining or anything I just enjoy seeing the media sticking up for us ...
This board is for officials, and officials don't care who wins. Officials know that other officials don't care who wins. By using the word "us" in the above sentence, you are clearly stating that you do care who wins. Thus, you are not an official (for purposes of posting about Kentucky), and do not belong on this baord.

Thank you, that is all.

A little extreme there Juulie.

Most officials are also fans of some team some where...just not at the level they work. That's were they probably got there interest in the game in the first place.
While an official working a game shouldn't care about who wins, there is no reason to be completely uninvolved in every level of the sport from a fan perspective.

I happen to be a fan of Kentucky. I care who wins. I'm not working the game or any game at that level....it's OK to pick sides. I just do so without the blue colored glasses worn by many of Kentucky's fans (or the color of any chosen school).

I think that the call in question was certainly debatable. The defender jumped across the front of the shooter and towards his side. Sparks jumped in a line that wasn't natural for the shot and into the defender's airborne path, that was not towards sparks. Sparks was foul hunting and Torbert was foul avoiding. Good no call.


26 Year Gap Tue Apr 05, 2005 08:28pm

Skip Bayless also thinks that there is nothing extraordinary about Jerry Rice as a WR. All I can say is he is smarter than the guy who pays him.

huto Wed Apr 13, 2005 02:53pm

re: Sparks/Torbert 'no-foul'
 
Bball Junkie – I take issue with your assessment of the UK/Sparks shot.

Based on the number of meaningless, no-harm-no-foul, touch fouls that officials call on countless fast-break layups, that was OBVIOUSLY a foul on Torbert during Sparks final shot. Anyone with a modicum of basketball knowledge could see it. I mean, the guys' body actually changed direction in mid-air. If that's not a foul, then there's never been one. I don't care what officials say – they cannot justify calling some of the crap fouls they call, and in good conscience avert their eyes on that Sparks shot. I'm not a Kentucky fan – just a basketball fan, and I would be cryin' in my beer too if my team were affectedby such a play. I could see that foul with my EYES CLOSED!

I'm sure Kentucky fans will 'get over it' and get ready for next season. But losses like that hurt – especially when there is a legitimate gripe about an obvious 'no-call'.

Be more objective.

JRutledge Wed Apr 13, 2005 03:07pm

Troll hunting
 
Quote:

Originally posted by huto
Bball Junkie – I take issue with your assessment of the UK/Sparks shot.

Based on the number of meaningless, no-harm-no-foul, touch fouls that officials call on countless fast-break layups, that was OBVIOUSLY a foul on Torbert during Sparks final shot. Anyone with a modicum of basketball knowledge could see it. I mean, the guys' body actually changed direction in mid-air. If that's not a foul, then there's never been one. I don't care what officials say – they cannot justify calling some of the crap fouls they call, and in good conscience avert their eyes on that Sparks shot. I'm not a Kentucky fan – just a basketball fan, and I would be cryin' in my beer too if my team were affectedby such a play. I could see that foul with my EYES CLOSED!

I'm sure Kentucky fans will 'get over it' and get ready for next season. But losses like that hurt – especially when there is a legitimate gripe about an obvious 'no-call'.

Be more objective.

Do you have any rules references to back up your claim? Do you have any examples of calls that were similar made in that game?

Do you have any examples than, "It was obviously a foul." If it was a foul, why was it a foul?

Peace

Camron Rust Wed Apr 13, 2005 04:13pm

Re: re: Sparks/Torbert 'no-foul'
 
Quote:

Originally posted by huto
Bball Junkie – I take issue with your assessment of the UK/Sparks shot.

Based on the number of meaningless, no-harm-no-foul, touch fouls that officials call on countless fast-break layups, that was OBVIOUSLY a foul on Torbert during Sparks final shot. Anyone with a modicum of basketball knowledge could see it. I mean, the guys' body actually changed direction in mid-air. If that's not a foul, then there's never been one. I don't care what officials say – they cannot justify calling some of the crap fouls they call, and in good conscience avert their eyes on that Sparks shot. I'm not a Kentucky fan – just a basketball fan, and I would be cryin' in my beer too if my team were affectedby such a play. I could see that foul with my EYES CLOSED!

I'm sure Kentucky fans will 'get over it' and get ready for next season. But losses like that hurt – especially when there is a legitimate gripe about an obvious 'no-call'.

Be more objective.

Sparks jumped into Torbert who was airborne and had jumped towards a spot that Sparks was not in nor was moving towards at the time of the jump. By srict interpretation of the rules, Sparks could be guilty of a player control foul.

FYI, I am a UK fan and was satisfied with the no call.

rainmaker Wed Apr 13, 2005 04:47pm

Re: Re: re: Sparks/Torbert 'no-foul'
 

The board is so boring that we're going to argue with a troll about a play that happened a month ago?!?

Why not go over to the Help Needed thread and insult JR?

Almost Always Right Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:36am

Ours is a thankless avocation!!
I hate screaming at the rain!!


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