WARNING!!! WARNING!! Annual off-topic baseball thread!!

[ChuckElias]

History for the Tampa Devil Rays!! Not that they've really had much history to talk about. But Jonny Gomes is the first Ray to hit 3 HRs in a single game. And they even won. Will wonders never cease?

I also saw that Nomar is due back to the Cubs on Friday. I had thought that he was going to be out for the season. But now, he'll be around to bat .230 for you the rest of the way. And Kerry Wood is also rejoining the team on Friday. Is he going right back into the rotation, or doing a bullpen stint, a la Schilling?

And mick, what the heck set Pudge off last night? That was quite a show he put on after getting tossed.

[ChuckElias]

I know this thread is pretty light-hearted, but I saw this article. Keep a good thought for this family:

Teen missing after disappearing from bathroom

A 13-year-old boy went to a restroom during a Yankees game and never returned, and searches of the stadium, nearby fast food restaurants and train stations by hundreds of police and security guards were fruitless.

Majelique Lewis, of Stamford, Conn., disappeared Friday night during the seventh-inning stretch of a Yankees-Angels game, police said.

His mother immediately reported him missing to security, who notified police about an hour later.

Every stadium exit is monitored by security cameras and Lewis' mother did not spot him on hours of recorded images, police said.

It was the teen's first trip to Yankee Stadium. He attended the game with his 65-year-old foster mother, brother and two sisters.

Lewis has no behavioral or mental problems and no history of running away, police said.

"He's an average kid,"said Arthur Shannonhouse, who answered the phone at Lewis' home and identified himself as the teen's father.

Ten to 15 children are reported missing at every Yankees game but are almost immediately located, police said.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

1)I also saw that Nomar is due back to the Cubs on Friday. I had thought that he was going to be out for the season. But now, he'll be around to bat .230 for you the rest of the way.

2) And Kerry Wood is also rejoining the team on Friday. Is he going right back into the rotation, or doing a bullpen stint, a la Schilling?

3) And mick, what the heck set Pudge off last night? That was quite a show he put on after getting tossed.

1) Lah me, how Boston's favorite sons seem to become villians right after they leave town. Poor Nomar. Poor, poor Nomar. Now he's just another broken-down former steroid monster. One of many.

2) Kerry Wood will be going back on the DL after about 20 pitches into his first warm-up. Guaranteed. Can't change history.

3) Well, Pudge can't blame 'roid rage this time. No, the 35 pounds he lost since last year has got nuthin' to do with steroids and the new testing procedures. Nope, nuthin'. Nada. The lad has gone from Pudge to PeeWee.

- And whatever happened to Manny Ramirez?

[mick]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
History for the Tampa Devil Rays!! Not that they've really had much history to talk about. But Jonny Gomes is the first Ray to hit 3 HRs in a single game. And they even won. Will wonders never cease?

I also saw that Nomar is due back to the Cubs on Friday. I had thought that he was going to be out for the season. But now, he'll be around to bat .230 for you the rest of the way. And Kerry Wood is also rejoining the team on Friday. Is he going right back into the rotation, or doing a bullpen stint, a la Schilling?

And mick, what the heck set Pudge off last night? That was quite a show he put on after getting tossed.

Pitcher whined.
"The call that angered Rodriguez was an 0-1 pitch to Payton that Barrett called a ball. Pitcher Nate Robertson said Barrett had "given me that pitch" earlier, but Barrett said: "It wasn't even close enough where a catcher would usually argue. It was considerably inside."

[Now, Pudge had to step up for his pitcher, plus Pudge probably just called the pitch that went "grand slam".]

"I warned Pudge a couple of times, but he kept going. When he went too far (with his language), I ejected him." - Detroit Free Press




mick

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
1) Lah me, how Boston's favorite sons seem to become villians right after they leave town. Poor Nomar. Poor, poor Nomar. Now he's just another broken-down former steroid monster. One of many.

I don't think Nomar's a villian. I like Nomar. I was merely commenting on his performance for the Cubs before his injury. I honestly hope that he hits .400 for the rest of the season and takes Chicago to the World Series. And I'm not convinced that his breakdown is due to steroids. He never put on the bulk of other obvious users; and his size didn't change much over the off-season. If he were using steroids, you'd think he'd be more resistant to injury. I have no proof one way or the other, obviously, but I never thought that he was juiced.

- And whatever happened to Manny Ramirez?

Absolutely nothing. Manny is, as always, Manny. Just the way I like him.

[mick]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

It was the teen's first trip to Yankee Stadium. He attended the game with his 65-year-old foster mother, brother and two sisters.

Lewis has no behavioral or mental problems and no history of running away, police said.

Found.
Ran away.

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
I also saw that Nomar is due back to the Cubs on Friday. I had thought that he was going to be out for the season. But now, he'll be around to bat .230 for you the rest of the way. And Kerry Wood is also rejoining the team on Friday. Is he going right back into the rotation, or doing a bullpen stint, a la Schilling?

As it looks now, the Cubs will get Nomar, Wood, and Scott Williamson all off the DL on Friday or Sat. Since Wood and Williamson (former rookie of the year) will be in the bullpen, it's a little like the Cubs making a big trade without giving anyone up. And it appears definite Wood will be in the bullpen. And, JR, you said he will be back on the DL after 20 pitches - you missed a decimal point. It's 200 pitches. Which means he won't be back on until late Aug. It will be interesting to see how he handles it, after being a starter his whole career. At least he has Mike Remlinger to ask for tips.

It will also be fun to see what trades, (if any) happen by tonight.

[ChuckElias]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChuckElias

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Absolutely nothing. Manny is, as always, Manny. Just the way I like him.

Told ya so.

Bottom of the 8th, score tied, Manny unties it with a pinch-hit RBI single back up the middle. Nothing phases him. Manny is, as always, Manny.

[Dan_ref]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ds.suspension/

[mick]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ds.suspension/

CROWD: A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've got a witch! A witch! A witch! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! We've found a witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch!

VILLAGER #1: We have found a witch. May we burn her?

CROWD: Burn her! Burn! Burn her! Burn her!

BEDEVERE: How do you know she is a witch?

VILLAGER #2: She looks like one.

CROWD: Right! Yeah! Yeah!

BEDEVERE: Bring her forward.

WITCH:I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.

BEDEVERE: Uh, but you are dressed as one.

WITCH: They dressed me up like this.

CROWD: Augh, we didn't! We didn't...



WITCH: And this isn't my nose. It's a false one.

BEDEVERE:Well?

VILLAGER #1:Well, we did do the nose.

BEDEVERE: The nose?

VILLAGER #1: And the hat, but she is a witch!

VILLAGER #2: Yeah!

CROWD: We burn her! Right! Yeaaah! Yeaah!

BEDEVERE: Did you dress her up like this?

VILLAGER #1: No!

VILLAGER #2 and 3: No. No.

VILLAGER #2: No.

VILLAGER #1: No.

VILLAGERS #2 and #3: No.

VILLAGER #1: Yes.

VILLAGER #2: Yes.

VILLAGER #1: Yes. Yeah, a bit.

VILLAGER #3: A bit.

VILLAGERS #1 and #2: A bit.

VILLAGER #3: A bit.

VILLAGER #1: She has got a wart.

RANDOM: *cough*

BEDEVERE: What makes you think she is a witch?

VILLAGER #3: Well, she turned me into a newt.

BEDEVERE: A newt?

VILLAGER #3: I got better.

VILLAGER #2: Burn her anyway!

VILLAGER #1: Burn!

CROWD: Burn her! Burn! Burn her!...

BEDEVERE: Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.

VILLAGER #1: Are there?

VILLAGER #2: Ah?

VILLAGER #1: What are they?

CROWD: Tell us! Tell us!...

VILLAGER #2: Do they hurt?

BEDEVERE: Tell me. What do you do with witches?

VILLAGER #2: Burn!

VILLAGER #1: Burn!

CROWD: Burn! Burn them up! Burn!...

BEDEVERE: And what do you burn apart from witches?

VILLAGER #1: More witches!

VILLAGER #3: Shh!

VILLAGER #2: Wood!

BEDEVERE: So, why do witches burn?

VILLAGER #3: Because they're made of... wood?

BEDEVERE: Good!

CROWD: Oh, yeah. Oh.

BEDEVERE: So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?

VILLAGER #1: Build a bridge out of her.

BEDEVERE: Ah, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?

VILLAGER #1: Oh, yeah.

RANDOM: Oh, yeah. True. Uhh...

BEDEVERE: Does wood sink in water?

VILLAGER #1: No. No.

VILLAGER #2: No, it floats! It floats!

VILLAGER #1: Throw her into the pond!

CROWD: The pond! Throw her into the pond!



BEDEVERE: What also floats in water?

VILLAGER #1: Bread!

VILLAGER #2: Apples!

VILLAGER #3: Very small rocks!

VILLAGER #1: Cider!

VILLAGER #2: Uh, gra-- gravy!

VILLAGER #1: Cherries!

VILLAGER #2: Mud!

VILLAGER #3: Uh, churches! Churches!

VILLAGER #2: Lead! Lead!

ARTHUR: A duck!

CROWD: Oooh.

BEDEVERE: Exactly. So, logically...

VILLAGER #1: If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she's made of wood.

BEDEVERE: And therefore?

VILLAGER #2: A witch!

VILLAGER #1: A witch!

CROWD: A witch! A witch!...

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by mick

CROWD: A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've got a witch! A witch! A witch! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! We've found a witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch!

VILLAGER #1: We have found a witch. May we burn her?

CROWD: Burn her! Burn! Burn her! Burn her!

You think Rafi got caught up in a witch hunt?

Or you saying he won't float?

[mick]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

You think Rafi got caught up in a witch hunt?

Or you saying he won't float?

Every day I become more and more cynical with respect to the Powers-that-be. If Palmiero is smart enough to put on a batting helmet, he is smart enough to know he's gonna get checked.[When my kid ran track, he wouldn't even eat *poppy seed* rolls.]

That program is broke; the news reporting should be on the tests and not on the athletes, until a test shows actual cheating.

"I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!!" - Howard Beale

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by mick
[/B]

That program is broke; the news reporting should be on the tests and not on the athletes, until a test shows actual cheating.

[/B][/QUOTE]What am I missing here, Mick? Palmeiro flunked a streroids test. Ergo, that flunked test showed that he cheated. You can't change that. Has anybody in any sport that has flunked one of these tests ever said anything but what Palmeiro said?

[mick]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

That program is broke; the news reporting should be on the tests and not on the athletes, until a test shows actual cheating.

[/B]

What am I missing here, Mick? Palmeiro flunked a streroids test. Ergo, that flunked test showed that he cheated. You can't change that. Has anybody in any sport that has flunked one of these tests ever said anything but what Palmeiro said? [/B][/QUOTE]

They proposed the tests.
They set the parameters.
They change the parameters.
They run the tests.

I think intent must be present, positive, planned and proven. I just don't like it one bit.
mick

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by mick

They proposed the tests.
They set the parameters.
They change the parameters.
They run the tests.

I think intent must be present, positive, planned and proven. I just don't like it one bit.
mick

Well, let me play devil's advocate here for a moment. Should you not get the traffic ticket for running the red light because the cop cannot prove you intended or planned to run it? Or should you get it because you did, intent or not? Or, even closer to home (so to speak), do you not call an over-and-back violation if the player tells you he honestly did not know he couldn't be the last one to touch the ball? Of course not. So, Rafi had knowledge, or access to the knowledge of what is legal and what isn't. Maybe he's absolutley truthful when he says he did not knowingly ingest this banned substance. But he did. Case closed. Next case.