Re: Captains Meeting
 

Why? No offense, but do you think the captains go back to their lay-up lines and say, "Hey guys, closely guarded counts are a point of emphasis this year. They're going to count tonight."?

They aren't listening. And even if they are (which they're not), they aren't taking that info back to their benches. So just do intros, get floor captains (not "speaking" captains, ok?) and let them get back to their warm-ups.

Re: Captains Meeting
 

For a two-man crew, "Hi, I'm Larry and this is Daryl."

For a three-man crew, "Hi, I'm Larry, this is my brother Daryl and this is my other brother Daryl." :D

floor captains
 

Chuck,
I see you denoted a difference between floor and speaking captains...No one has really been able to answer for me, why we ask for either? Maybe you can explain why, in the captains meeting you would want to know the Floor captains, or speaking captains, for those that want to call them that...I can honestly see no reason, because much as you say they aren't listening to what we say or at the very least not taking it back to the team, which I agree with by the way LOL...are we not going to interact with anyone but the floor captains...again I say I will talk to anyone who addresses me in a respectful way...I may talk to those that address me in a non-repectful way as well LOL :)

Re: Re: Captains Meeting
 

Of course not.

But what they will say when they head back to the lay-up lines is this, "Man, did you check out the gut on that one?"

"Yeah, but what about the other dudes breath?"

Re: floor captains
 

3-1-1 and 2. Notice how it just says captain.;)

don't have the books with me
 

BZ,
I don't have the books with me, give me a little more of a quote if you would :) thanks :)

Re: floor captains
 

The floor captain is the guy I can go to and say, "Number 55 is getting rough. You want to handle it or do you want me to?"

The speaking captain is the guy who thinks the "speaking" part gives him the right to come to me 100 times and say, "Sir, they're pushing off every time they have the ball."

I prefer to have a floor captain.

3-1-1 says: Each team shall consist of five players, ONE of whom is the captain.

3-1-2 says: The captain is the representative of his/her team and may address an official on matters of interpretation or to obtain essental information, if it is done in a courteous manner.

Ok thanks BZ I am with you now, but here is my point....When we are at the captains meeting, and we ask for a floor/speaking captain, what happens if that player isn't on the floor when one of the players has a question?? This has been my point all along, if we are going to recognize and talk to anyone anyway(and I certainly will, with the sportsmanship caveat) then why ask for one at the meeting??... :D

Maybe some of the (really) older poeple can help out on this, but I was under the impression that a long time ago, the captain actually had specific duties during the game. Over time, these duties have diminished, to where I believe one of the few things left a captain can do is designate who will shoot technical foul shots (along with, of course, a coach). As far as the distinction between a "floor" captain and "speaking" captain, I would think that came about due to what happens when one is substituted for in a game. Now, I think the designation of a captain is largely ceremonial, with no real duties, so designating one is really not that necessary. However, during the pre-game I do congratulate them for getting the big bucks now that they are a captain. I have also been told NEVER ask them if there are any questions, because that opens you up to, "Hey, ref, I wanted to ask you about the other night..." Don't give them that opportunity. But we still have to mention sportsmanship here in IL, and I tell them good luck. Short and sweet, because they don't need (and don't want) a "pre-game" like we do in the locker room.

Captain, coaches meeting
 

Hey, this is fun!

Saddle - That was GREAT! I'm still laughing!

Chuck - Floor captains? I've not seen that term in the books but I like it! Semantics can matter tremendously. Speaking captain does give the wrong impression to some.

B Zebra- Thanks for the rules specification. (3.1.1,2) Good job! That's where I got the term "respectfully".

Matthews - No Offense but it maybe you shouldn't bother with the meeting at all.

Re: Captain, coaches meeting
 

Stylerng,
Rest assured if the meeting wasn't part of protocol outlined in the book I would skip it, and I would venture to say, more of us here would skip it, than would hold it, if not required...... Like was mentioned above, they don't listen to us anyway......

"Badaba-do, badaba-de, sportsmanship, good luck and have fun". That's what they hear.

OK, I've heard of scooby-doobey doo

http://www.oscarpeterson.com/op/phot...nk_sinatra.jpg

I've heard of doobie-doobie doo

http://www.allfunpix.com/humor/pics2/coolyoda.jpg

I've heard of yabba dabba doo

http://www.awn.com/mag/issue1.4/imag...Schechter6.gif

I've even heard of badda-bing badda-boom

http://travel.discovery.com/fansites...y/sopranos.jpg

but I've never heard of Badaba-do, badaba-de

c & c meeting
 

Dan_ref - That's some great picture work! You guys crack me up for sure! Yoda was hilarious!
Other than the funny stuff though - Really guys? We can't give an interesting enough meeting to hold the players or coaches attention for one minute or so? Is it possible that because of this players don't listen and by the end of the season coaches don't even attend? Have you ever finished this conference and had a coach say, "That's the best captains meeting I've ever heard" ? I have and I say this meeting can have some significant meaning if we'll put some effort into it. It's up to us! If most of us don't care to though we'll continue with the same ceremonial, mundane, meaningless, required meeting. We can do better as officials than just go through the motions, pick up our checks, and take our free showers. Ooops, maybe I've gone too far. No offense (unless it will help)