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SeahawkSanders Thu Mar 17, 2005 05:49pm
Reading over my rule book I came across this:

4-43 art. 3: After coming to a stop and establishing a pivot foot: a) The pivot foot MAY BE LIFTED, but not returned to the floor, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal.

Am I confusing something? So I can raise my pivot foot and I'm okay unless I bring it back to the floor? I thought that was traveling...wow I'm really feeling stupid.

[Edited by SeahawkSanders on Mar 17th, 2005 at 05:52 PM]

ChuckElias Thu Mar 17, 2005 05:54pm
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Originally posted by SeahawkSanders
So I can raise my pivot foot and I'm okay unless I bring it back to the floor?
If you couldn't, how could anybody shoot a jump shot? :confused:

Back In The Saddle Thu Mar 17, 2005 06:06pm
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Originally posted by Bush in 2004
Please note that this only applies to a shot or pass. If they lift that pivot and then dribble, violation.

Visualize this play: Player receives the ball in the post. Turns to the basket and jumps, both feet off the floor, but in mid-air realizes he is going to be blocked. Rather then release a shot then, and without the defender touching the ball, he throws the ball to the floor and begins to dribble. Violation.
Or...player received a pass out on the wing. He gets a "quick first step" and blows by the defender, but doesn't get the dribble off before his pivot foot leaves the floor. Tweet.

SeahawkSanders Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:02pm
Okay...my fault. I wasn't visualizing this properly, thanks for the clarification.

Good Lord! Sometimes something so simple can seem so complex when reading that book! I'll conquer it...one day! :) Thanks again all,

SeahawkSanders Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:03pm
Quote:
Originally posted by Bush in 2004
Please note that this only applies to a shot or pass. If they lift that pivot and then dribble, violation.
That's where I was confused...thanks again.

Snake~eyes Fri Mar 18, 2005 01:17pm
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by SeahawkSanders
So I can raise my pivot foot and I'm okay unless I bring it back to the floor?
If you couldn't, how could anybody shoot a jump shot? :confused:
When the player catches the ball with both feet on the floor, that's about the only scenario I can think of.

Dan_ref Fri Mar 18, 2005 01:21pm
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by SeahawkSanders
So I can raise my pivot foot and I'm okay unless I bring it back to the floor?
If you couldn't, how could anybody shoot a jump shot? :confused:
You've never seen my jump shot, have you Chuck?

IREFU2 Fri Mar 18, 2005 01:41pm
A player can actually lift one foot off the floor, but the only option after that is to shoot or pass it. If he returns the said foot back to the floor, its a travel.

Dan_ref Fri Mar 18, 2005 02:55pm
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Originally posted by IREFU2
A player can actually lift one foot off the floor, but the only option after that is to shoot or pass it. If he returns the said foot back to the floor, its a travel.
..or call timeout. ;)

IREFU2 Fri Mar 18, 2005 02:58pm
Yes and that too!

ChuckElias Fri Mar 18, 2005 03:13pm
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
You've never seen my jump shot, have you Chuck?
Your jump shot is what used to be called a set shot :)

ChuckElias Fri Mar 18, 2005 03:14pm
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by IREFU2
A player can actually lift one foot off the floor, but the only option after that is to shoot or pass it. If he returns the said foot back to the floor, its a travel.
..or call timeout. ;)
Nope. But he can request one. :D (That's not really my crusade, but I thought I'd jump in before Padgett.)

Dan_ref Fri Mar 18, 2005 03:23pm
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by IREFU2
A player can actually lift one foot off the floor, but the only option after that is to shoot or pass it. If he returns the said foot back to the floor, its a travel.
..or call timeout. ;)
Nope. But he can request one. :D (That's not really my crusade, but I thought I'd jump in before Padgett.)
OK, now you've done it, the gloves are off!! (Friday afternoon, no game to run to...)

What, exactly does a player do when he requests a timeout from one authorized to grant said timeout? He exclaims in a loud, clear voice, "timeout!". And what's a word that denotes exclaiming in a loud clear voice?

hint: it rhymes with 'small'.

ChuckElias Fri Mar 18, 2005 03:27pm
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
What, exactly does a player do when he requests a timeout from one authorized to grant said timeout? He exclaims in a loud, clear voice, "timeout!". And what's a word that denotes exclaiming in a loud clear voice?
He is calling for (i.e., requesting) a timeout. If he had actually called a timeout, the clock would have stopped.

As I said, this isn't my crusade. I don't care, but I can see Padgett's point.

BTW, I'm beating you in the brackets :D

Dan_ref Fri Mar 18, 2005 03:37pm
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
BTW, I'm beating you in the brackets :D
Yeah yeah yeah, half the planet's beating me in the brackets. If that punk from Creighton was born with opposable thumbs, both eyes and a brain reasonably equipped to coordinate them I would be ahead of you in the brackets.

But I aint worried. You have UNC - as Howard Cosell might call - going. all. the. way.


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