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IREFU2 Thu Feb 24, 2005 08:27am

I have a question -

A1 calls a time out and then out of frustration slams the ball to the celling. Official whacks A1 with a "T". Off course two shots by B team, but how is possession handled? Does B team get the ball or do you go to the AP? My buddy called me with this last night and I told him I would check. He gave the ball to team B at center court opposite of the table.

NCAAREF Thu Feb 24, 2005 08:33am

Buddy is right
 
You're buddy done good!

bob jenkins Thu Feb 24, 2005 08:37am

Quote:

Originally posted by IREFU2
I have a question -

A1 calls a time out and then out of frustration slams the ball to the celling. Official whacks A1 with a "T". Off course two shots by B team, but how is possession handled? Does B team get the ball or do you go to the AP? My buddy called me with this last night and I told him I would check. He gave the ball to team B at center court opposite of the table.

Assuming this was FED rules, the penalty for a T always included posession of the ball (unless complicated by a subsequent T, or the end of a period)

Under NCAA rules, shoot the throws for the T and go back to POI.

ThickSkin Thu Feb 24, 2005 01:29pm

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Originally posted by bob jenkins
[B]Assuming this was FED rules, the penalty for a T always included posession of the ball (unless complicated by a subsequent T, or the end of a period)

Under NCAA rules, shoot the throws for the T and go back to POI.

Do you believe that HS will ever go to this? I think it is worth looking at. It will get rid of the confusion that some have between intentionals and T's.

Smitty Thu Feb 24, 2005 01:32pm

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Originally posted by ThickSkin
[B]
Quote:

Originally posted by bob jenkins
Assuming this was FED rules, the penalty for a T always included posession of the ball (unless complicated by a subsequent T, or the end of a period)

Under NCAA rules, shoot the throws for the T and go back to POI.



Do you believe that HS will ever go to this? I think it is worth looking at. It will get rid of the confusion that some have between intentionals and T's.

What confusion?

ThickSkin Thu Feb 24, 2005 01:35pm

The confusion that new officials encounter the first few times they have have an intentional or T! In the association I just transfered to, it seemed like every meeting, we had to distinguish between the two for new officials.

mopar60 Thu Feb 24, 2005 01:36pm

Why the differences
 
I wonder why there are not just one set of rules for the game. Why does the NFHS / Mens' NCAA, Womens NCAA seem to have different little rule differences? Like the above for instance?

Just curious.

bob jenkins Thu Feb 24, 2005 01:48pm

Re: Why the differences
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mopar60
I wonder why there are not just one set of rules for the game. Why does the NFHS / Mens' NCAA, Womens NCAA seem to have different little rule differences? Like the above for instance?

Just curious.

What about NBA and FIBA? You want your local rec league and my local rec league to play with the same rules?

Whose rules do we choose?


Smitty Thu Feb 24, 2005 02:09pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ThickSkin
The confusion that new officials encounter the first few times they have have an intentional or T! In the association I just transfered to, it seemed like every meeting, we had to distinguish between the two for new officials.
I find those a piece of cake compared to the correctable error rules. Talk about confusing...

TimTaylor Thu Feb 24, 2005 02:36pm

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Originally posted by ThickSkin
The confusion that new officials encounter the first few times they have have an intentional or T! In the association I just transfered to, it seemed like every meeting, we had to distinguish between the two for new officials.
How so? In both cases the team fouled gets two shots and the ball. The only difference is in who shoots the free throws (fouled player for the X, player designated by coach for T) and where they get the ball for inbound (spot nearest foul for X, division line for T). Pretty simple really, compared to some of the other stuff we have to deal with.......

Back In The Saddle Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:05pm

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Originally posted by ThickSkin
The confusion that new officials encounter the first few times they have have an intentional or T! In the association I just transfered to, it seemed like every meeting, we had to distinguish between the two for new officials.
I assume you mean the difference in administration? If distinguishing between a T and an intentional is confusing now, just imagine all of the fun we could have with POI! The difference would then be pretty big, which would only exacerbate the newbies' confusion. At least now if they confuse them, about the worst that can happen is they give the offended team the ball back at the wrong spot.

Forksref Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:58pm

Quote:

Originally posted by IREFU2
I have a question -

A1 calls a time out and then out of frustration slams the ball to the celling. Official whacks A1 with a "T". Off course two shots by B team, but how is possession handled? Does B team get the ball or do you go to the AP? My buddy called me with this last night and I told him I would check. He gave the ball to team B at center court opposite of the table.

Fouls don't change the AP arrow.


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