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What happens when a fouled out player (on the bench) gets a technical foul? I had this situation last weekend and I'm not quite sure if I handled it correctly...
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Okay, so that player now has 6 personnal fouls?
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Not that it matters, but yes, they now have 6 personals.
Also, the T is only assessed indirectly to the head coach if the coach has been notified that it was the 5th personal. Once you notify the coach that it is 5 personal fouls, the player is bench personnel. Before that, it is only assigned to the player. |
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Thanks. The only times I've had to add a Tech to a personal, the act was commited before I even reported the foul. Chances are, by the time you report it and the table tells you it was 5, the player has already either made it worse or kept himself under control.
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Guys - let's not get our terms confused. A technical foul never counts as a personal foul. Yes - it does count toward the five fouls for a DQ, and a lot of score books don't have a way to indicate this properly and you wind up having the scorer list it in the personal area since that is the only way you can tell when the total reaches five, but it is not a personal. Newer books should have the two boxes for technicals in the same place as the five boxes for personals so you can just look at the total only when it reaches five, of course (in reference to another thread).
Some feel you should mark it as a personal also so you make sure it is counted toward the team foul total. I understand this, but if you have a scorekeeper with at least half a brain (and I know this isn't always the case), he or she should be able to keep the terminology straight and not screw up - with a little explanation from you, of course. |
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If I were to add my opinion to the design of a scoresheet, I'd also add an area for technicals administered to bench personel. It's probably wishful thinking, but I think it would be able to work. Most scorers don't understand the difference between a direct and indirect T on a coach. |
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I thought a T on a disqualified player was a direct T on the coach...
Last year there was a lot of discussion avout this. That is that once the coach is informed, he is considered bench personnel, but there was a difference between him and non-DQ players. Anyone remember this but me or did I just always have it wrong?
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