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Old Tue Feb 22, 2005, 08:46am
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How about 2-5-3..The Referee shall...decide whether a goal shall count if the officials disagree.
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Old Tue Feb 22, 2005, 09:23am
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How about 2-5-3..The Referee shall...decide whether a goal shall count if the officials disagree.
Not the same thing. We're not disputing whether this goal should count; it's a question of how much it counts for.
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Old Tue Feb 22, 2005, 09:34am
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You could interpret it as "should the goal count as a 3 or a 2"
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Old Tue Feb 22, 2005, 09:49am
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You could interpret it as "should the goal count as a 3 or a 2"
Maybe you could. But I can't.

Here's a scenario. Double whistle on a foul by B1 on shooter A1. Ball goes in the hoop. You give it up to your partner because it's in his primary. He calls the block and waves off the shot, but you're positive the shot should count. You're the R. You think you can overrule based on this rule?
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Old Tue Feb 22, 2005, 10:51am
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I don't overrule, I offer assistance.

Would it have been Ok for thumpferee , since they were in transition, to signal a 3-attempt? For example, in transition, the C can call fouls across the court, in areas which would be the new lead's primary, until the offensive team is in front court set-up.

In this scenario, the new lead is right there, the new Trail may be 50 feet behind the play, if it really was a fast break. Should the new L signal a 3-attempt?
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Old Tue Feb 22, 2005, 10:52am
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Sorry...correct "new lead's area" to "new Trail's area"
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Old Tue Feb 22, 2005, 11:16am
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In transition, I'd signal the attempt, and then probably the touchdown as well when I noticed my partner didn't do it.
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Old Tue Feb 22, 2005, 11:31am
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I show "2" to trail, who signalled "3".
I held my "2" and eyeballed partner, who then changed the call as he passed the table.
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Old Tue Feb 22, 2005, 03:34pm
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Mick had eyesight,communication,understanding partner,they got it right, they got in, got it done, got out. Period.
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Old Tue Feb 22, 2005, 03:46pm
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Pre-game item...........In my pre-game I ask the question on how we want to handle this very thing. We usually agree, If an off official is 110% su8re the calling official is incorrect we crack the whistle and fix it right away.......Leave the egos in the locker room.
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2005, 09:46pm
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Whatever happened to "call what you SAW"? Seems someone has some explaining to do. BUT - GET IT RIGHT!!

Sounds similar to, "yeah coach I saw the foul but it's not in my area". That's why they call it a PRIMARY opposed to simply "your area".

Fully understand and appreciate everybody's AREA but I gotta go with "definite knowledge" over a guess any and every day...it's a 3 and it shouldn't be that difficult.

Wouldn't it be ironic if next trip down the "guesser" asks for help with sideline call and you give him a definite call only to have him ponder for a moment and then reverse your definite direction for the opposite based off of a "hunch"...now wouldn't that make for a great game.
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Old Thu Feb 24, 2005, 10:39am
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Yep..This probably should be pregamed...BUT, any decent official should know that a partner will not blow a whistle to over rule in a case like this unless he/she is 110% sure of what he/she saw.
The official that missed it in this case was wrong in even talking to his partner after the partner called for the "3".
He should just suck it up and move on...not make an *** out of himself and his partner by "over ruling the over rule"
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Old Thu Feb 24, 2005, 10:43am
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unless he/she is 110% sure of what he/she saw.
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