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Mark Padgett Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:16pm

Last night girls game. A1 goes up to shoot. B1 gets hand on top of ball with absolutely no body contact and forces A1 to come down with ball. I call a jump.

Coach A screams for a foul. I say to my partner (in front of the coach), "The coach wants a foul. Since all that was hit was the ball, put the ball at the free throw line for two shots."

My partner says, "What's the point of doing that? We're just going to wind up with a couple of 10 second violations."

I reply, "Oh yeah. I hadn't thought of that." I turned to the coach and said, "Sorry, I don't think it's in the rules that the ball can shoot itself."

The coach looked like someone had just put a calculus exam in front of him. He turned around and walked away.

"Besides", my partner continued, "the ball is wearing an illegal number - 28.5"

That one cracked me up.

M&M Guy Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:38pm

:D

I assume the coach was afraid to talk to those crazy SOB's the rest of the game!

mopar60 Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:40pm

That was a good one!

Hey, I read your post to my buddy here and he wanted to know why that would not be a travelling call instead of jump ball?

Would it be because the hand was still on the ball when the shooter came down?

Thanks,


rainmaker Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:41pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Last night girls game. A1 goes up to shoot. B1 gets hand on top of ball with absolutely no body contact and forces A1 to come down with ball. I call a jump.

Coach A screams for a foul. I say to my partner (in front of the coach), "The coach wants a foul. Since all that was hit was the ball, put the ball at the free throw line for two shots."

My partner says, "What's the point of doing that? We're just going to wind up with a couple of 10 second violations."

I reply, "Oh yeah. I hadn't thought of that." I turned to the coach and said, "Sorry, I don't think it's in the rules that the ball can shoot itself."

The coach looked like someone had just put a calculus exam in front of him. He turned around and walked away.

"Besides", my partner continued, "the ball is wearing an illegal number - 28.5"

That one cracked me up.

Details, Mark. WHO??

Adam Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:47pm

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Originally posted by mopar60
That was a good one!

Hey, I read your post to my buddy here and he wanted to know why that would not be a travelling call instead of jump ball?

Would it be because the hand was still on the ball when the shooter came down?

Thanks,


defensive player's hand doens't have to be on the ball when the shooter comes down. If the defender's hand prevented the release of the shot, it's a jump ball; not traveling.

tjones1 Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:47pm

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Originally posted by mopar60
That was a good one!

Hey, I read your post to my buddy here and he wanted to know why that would not be a travelling call instead of jump ball?

Would it be because the hand was still on the ball when the shooter came down?

Thanks,


Explained under 4-25-2

Edit: Snaq can type fast! :)

[Edited by tjones1 on Feb 17th, 2005 at 12:50 PM]

Adam Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:49pm

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Originally posted by tjones1
Quote:

Originally posted by mopar60
That was a good one!

Hey, I read your post to my buddy here and he wanted to know why that would not be a travelling call instead of jump ball?

Would it be because the hand was still on the ball when the shooter came down?

Thanks,


Yes. 4-25-2

So, you're saying B1's hand has to still be on the ball when A1 lands for it to be a jump ball? ;)

tjones1 Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:52pm

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Originally posted by Snaqwells
Quote:

Originally posted by tjones1
Quote:

Originally posted by mopar60
That was a good one!

Hey, I read your post to my buddy here and he wanted to know why that would not be a travelling call instead of jump ball?

Would it be because the hand was still on the ball when the shooter came down?

Thanks,


Yes. 4-25-2

So, you're saying B1's hand has to still be on the ball when A1 lands for it to be a jump ball? ;)

Nope, it's just that you caught me before I could go back! ;)

Adam Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:56pm

I figured. :D

TriggerMN Thu Feb 17, 2005 01:21pm

It's good to know that I'll never have trouble getting big games when there are officials like this out there who would rather come up with funny jokes than actually manage the game properly.

Smitty Thu Feb 17, 2005 01:26pm

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Originally posted by TriggerMN
It's good to know that I'll never have trouble getting big games when there are officials like this out there who would rather come up with funny jokes than actually manage the game properly.
I believe this occurred in a rec league game, not a high school game.

Snake~eyes Thu Feb 17, 2005 01:28pm

LOL, that is so funny, especially when your partner gets in on it too. :D

Jurassic Referee Thu Feb 17, 2005 01:34pm

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Originally posted by TriggerMN
It's good to know that I'll never have trouble getting big games when there are officials like this out there who would rather come up with funny jokes than actually manage the game properly.
How exactly do you know that this particular game wasn't managed properly? Did you see it? Did you get game reports on it? Break down the films maybe?

Just wondering how you are so sure that this game was so poorly managed.

Smitty Thu Feb 17, 2005 01:38pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by TriggerMN
It's good to know that I'll never have trouble getting big games when there are officials like this out there who would rather come up with funny jokes than actually manage the game properly.
How exactly do you know that this particular game wasn't managed properly? Did you see it? Did you get game reports on it? Break down the films maybe?

Just wondering how you are so sure that this game was so poorly managed.

That's a good point. There are some guys out there who have the charisma to be able to inject some humor into a game and still have the character to maintain control and run the game smoothly. I don't happen to have that kind of charisma - when I try and be funny I usually fall on my face, so I don't do it very often. Some people just have it, some don't. It's the ones who don't have it but think they do that are trouble. ;)

LarryS Thu Feb 17, 2005 01:41pm

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Originally posted by TriggerMN
It's good to know that I'll never have trouble getting big games when there are officials like this out there who would rather come up with funny jokes than actually manage the game properly.
Getting a coach to laugh (while VERY dangerous) can be good management of a game. During my first year, a particular coach was chirping the entrie first half about everything. My partner and I discussed it at half as we were both ready to pull out the T. Just after the start of the third quarter, my partner is T standing right by the coach when the ball goes OOB. His team is getting ready to inbound when the following exchange occurs;

Coach: "My team isn't litening to me and the two of you are ignoring me, I can't win."
Partner: "Coach, my dad would tell you the same thing he tells me, every communication failure you have has one thing in common."
Coach: "And what would that be?"
Partner: "You"

Coach grins and says "You may be onto something". Rest of the game was pleasant and the coach shut up.

Junker Thu Feb 17, 2005 01:58pm

This was the fans, not a partner, but it really cracked me up. I had a sophmore game the other night. One of the players from the visiting team was on the short side and had plenty of body and facial hair. Every time we were down by the student section and he had the ball, they started to sing the "oompa loompa" song from Willy Wonka. The first time they did it I nearly swallowed my whitle laughing.

Mark Padgett Thu Feb 17, 2005 02:20pm

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Originally posted by TriggerMN
It's good to know that I'll never have trouble getting big games when there are officials like this out there who would rather come up with funny jokes than actually manage the game properly.
I see on your profile you have no occupation or interests. You must have plenty of time to get those "big games". :p

Malcolm Tucker Thu Feb 17, 2005 03:28pm

Now Children

We must play well with our friends

canuckrefguy Thu Feb 17, 2005 03:47pm

Sarcasm aside, TMN brings up a good point.

I'm guessing Mark knows this coach well enough to be able to joke like that. He's been around long enough to get that benefit of the doubt. I'm also guessing there were some prior incidents with the coach earlier in the game.

BUT....what would you have done if the coach reacted angrily and got out of hand? T'd him? How would you be able to justify that after not only baiting him, but condescending and belittling him in front of his players (and possibly others)?

This story's funny as hell, but the wrong situation, person, or alignment of the planets, and this could have ended with you filling out some kind of report.

Dudly Thu Feb 17, 2005 03:48pm

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Originally posted by Snaqwells
Quote:

Originally posted by mopar60
That was a good one!

Hey, I read your post to my buddy here and he wanted to know why that would not be a travelling call instead of jump ball?

Would it be because the hand was still on the ball when the shooter came down?

Thanks,


defensive player's hand doens't have to be on the ball when the shooter comes down. If the defender's hand prevented the release of the shot, it's a jump ball; not traveling.

I had this happen last night. Jump ball all the way. Good thing the crowd was yelling and cheering me on for such a great call. yeah right!

Almost Always Right Thu Feb 17, 2005 03:51pm

C'Mon Trigger
 
That was some good stuff. and to have both of them on the same page. I betchya they called a helluva game!!
AAR

kenref1 Thu Feb 17, 2005 03:52pm

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Originally posted by M&M Guy
:D

I assume the coach was afraid to talk to those crazy SOB's the rest of the game!

Look out Jim! You have to work with a crazy SOB real soon!

Mark Padgett Thu Feb 17, 2005 03:53pm

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Originally posted by canuckrefguy
Sarcasm aside, TMN brings up a good point.

I'm guessing Mark knows this coach well enough to be able to joke like that. He's been around long enough to get that benefit of the doubt. I'm also guessing there were some prior incidents with the coach earlier in the game.

BUT....what would you have done if the coach reacted angrily and got out of hand? T'd him? How would you be able to justify that after not only baiting him, but condescending and belittling him in front of his players (and possibly others)?

This story's funny as hell, but the wrong situation, person, or alignment of the planets, and this could have ended with you filling out some kind of report.

I understand your point. This was a rec game and the coaches are usually willing to take a joke if done without being mean spirited (operative word here: "usually"). He was the home coach and I've done his games for about 3 or 4 years. We know each other fairly well.

Oh yeah - I don't fill out reports. Reports are for wimps. :D

M&M Guy Thu Feb 17, 2005 03:57pm

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Originally posted by kenref1
Quote:

Originally posted by M&M Guy
:D

I assume the coach was afraid to talk to those crazy SOB's the rest of the game!

Look out Jim! You have to work with a crazy SOB real soon!

I resemble that remark! :p

Maverick Thu Feb 17, 2005 04:10pm

My partner had a classic a couple weeks ago. We almost never say anything to fans but this was an exception. Fast break, I'm going to L, partner trailing. A1 goes up for a layup, B1 tries to block. I've got it clean up top but my partner sees B1's off hand give a little push on the body. B's crowd goes crazy that he'd call the foul when I was closer. As we're lining up for the FTs, one fan yells "You weren't even in the building!" My partner looks over at him and says "If you don't settle down, you won't be either."

canuckrefguy Thu Feb 17, 2005 04:18pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Oh yeah - I don't fill out reports. Reports are for wimps. :D
I was thinking POLICE report :p



Mark Padgett Thu Feb 17, 2005 05:02pm

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Originally posted by canuckrefguy
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Oh yeah - I don't fill out reports. Reports are for wimps. :D
I was thinking POLICE report :p

Oh. Those I fill out.

Forksref Thu Feb 17, 2005 05:43pm

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Originally posted by M&M Guy
:D

I assume the coach was afraid to talk to those crazy SOB's the rest of the game!

If there's anything they don't want it's humor. They want to VENT!


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