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mick Thu Feb 24, 2005 04:19pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Snaqwells
The lower the level, the more this is going to happen. The best you can do is politely remind the ref that once you are trying to inbound, they can't call time out. At best, he'll start to watch for that. At worst, he'll disagree with you and you'll have to live with that.
Remember, though, once he blows the whistle, the timeout <font color = white>will be granted</font>.

...<u>May</u> be granted. ;)
mick

kamflam Thu Feb 24, 2005 09:05pm

5.8 art 5 - up until ball in possession out of bounds
 
Rule 5.8

Art. 5. Recognizes a request by the head coach or a player for a timeout after a goal until a player on the team putting the ball in play from the end line is positioned out of bounds with the ball.

Yes, this is Section 8. Extra Period.
But is there a reason a different logic would apply here.

I say, timeout can be called at any point up to when the team is positioned out of bounds with the ball.

Jurassic Referee Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:07pm

Quote:

Originally posted by kamflam
Rule 5.8

Art. 5. Recognizes a request by the head coach or a player for a timeout after a goal until a player on the team putting the ball in play from the end line is positioned out of bounds with the ball.

Yes, this is Section 8. Extra Period.
But is there a reason a different logic would apply here.

I say, timeout can be called at any point up to when the team is positioned out of bounds with the ball.

The original poster specified that they were playing under NFHS rules. The rules citation that you gave is <b>not</b> an NFHS rule. There is no 5-8-5 in FED.

A TO cannot be given to the team without the ball after the throwing team has the ball or it is at their disposal.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Feb 24th, 2005 at 10:10 PM]

Rich Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:23am

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by kamflam
Rule 5.8

Art. 5. Recognizes a request by the head coach or a player for a timeout after a goal until a player on the team putting the ball in play from the end line is positioned out of bounds with the ball.

Yes, this is Section 8. Extra Period.
But is there a reason a different logic would apply here.

I say, timeout can be called at any point up to when the team is positioned out of bounds with the ball.

The original poster specified that they were playing under NFHS rules. The rules citation that you gave is <b>not</b> an NFHS rule. There is no 5-8-5 in FED.

A TO cannot be given to the team without the ball after the throwing team has the ball or it is at their disposal.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Feb 24th, 2005 at 10:10 PM]

I grant the timeout until the B player has the ball OUT OF BOUNDS. There's gotta be a window where the team that has just scored can call a timeout and that window doesn't end in my games just because a team B player catches the ball coming out of the basket.

Camron Rust Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:56am

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by kamflam
Rule 5.8

Art. 5. Recognizes a request by the head coach or a player for a timeout after a goal until a player on the team putting the ball in play from the end line is positioned out of bounds with the ball.

Yes, this is Section 8. Extra Period.
But is there a reason a different logic would apply here.

I say, timeout can be called at any point up to when the team is positioned out of bounds with the ball.

The original poster specified that they were playing under NFHS rules. The rules citation that you gave is <b>not</b> an NFHS rule. There is no 5-8-5 in FED.

A TO cannot be given to the team without the ball after the throwing team has the ball or it is at their disposal.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Feb 24th, 2005 at 10:10 PM]

I grant the timeout until the B player has the ball OUT OF BOUNDS. There's gotta be a window where the team that has just scored can call a timeout and that window doesn't end in my games just because a team B player catches the ball coming out of the basket.

Agreed! If the ball is dead, either team can call timeout. If you're not started the 5 second count, the ball is still dead. The ball becomes live and the count starts when it is at their disposal (which means they have the ball in a position to make a throwin or have had enough time to be in such a position). If you consider it at thier disposal as soon as a player catches the ball when it drops through the net, you must be counting and they'll only get a net of 3 seconds for the throwin.


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