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BktBallRef Wed Feb 16, 2005 05:06pm

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Originally posted by Snaqwells
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Originally posted by Bush in 2004
Is this the basketball officials forum? How does this relate?
It's called a diversion. We are allowed. Ask Brad.

Yeah, you know Brad, don't you Bush?

LarryS Wed Feb 16, 2005 05:17pm

I don't think you can make general statements or assumptions about a school based on their name. Texas Tech University has a fine law school (and medical school I think), but the name implies it is an technical school.

Schools with the States name in it are not necessarily public. I believe the University of Southern Califonia is a private school.

I went to Lamar University...many thought it was private because it did not have "State" in the name...Nope, public university.

About the only thing that seems consistent (from my inexperience) is if the school is named Univ. of (State Name) - (City name) they usually $uck at football :D

JugglingReferee Wed Feb 16, 2005 05:35pm

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Originally posted by JRutledge
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Originally posted by Bush in 2004
Is this the basketball officials forum? How does this relate?
Michigan and Michigan State played each other recently. :D

Peace

There are a few of us in southern Ontario that want to get tickets to a MI/MI State game. Either bb or fb.

Is it true that the crowds at these games are among the finest in the country?

Of course, I'd also like to see a Duke game. My roomie, a large Duke fan, told me that Coach K has a lifetime contract. Talk about writing your own ticket.

Thanks for the replies all. It is exactly what I wanted to know. And I can never know enough extra facts, aka trivia, BktBallRef.

JRutledge Wed Feb 16, 2005 05:44pm

I have never had the opportunity to sit in a Michigan/Michigan State game at either school. If I am not mistaken these schools played in the Big Ten Men's Basketball Tournament last year. I was born in Ann Arbor and have relatives that went to Michigan and Michigan State. I can tell you there is a lot of hate (the clean kind) between the two schools and the fans. It was crazy when UM beat MSU last year in the tournament. I just know these two schools just like to kick each other's behinds in everything. Football, basketball, hockey, field hockey, baseball...... Well you get the idea.

Peace

Mark Padgett Wed Feb 16, 2005 07:06pm

Here in Oregon we have Granola State and Treehugger U. However, my favorite school name is still UATG (University of Arkansas at Tooth Gap).

Sam Houston Institute of Technology and Frankfort University of Central Kentucky are good, also.

Dan_ref Wed Feb 16, 2005 07:52pm

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Originally posted by Bush in 2004
Is this the basketball officials forum? How does this relate?
Here's how it relates sweety:

Many officials attended & even graduated post-high school institutions of learning (colleges and/or universities).

When...errr...if you graduate high school you'll be eligible, until then just let the adults have some fun, OK?


Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:30pm

Being a fan of both Youngstown State University and The Ohio State University, I always get a kick out of a Michigan State University bummper sticker that says: Michigan State, the university of Michigan.

MTD, Sr.

stosh Thu Feb 17, 2005 08:09am

don't forget Rutgers; THE State University of NJ!

Lotto Thu Feb 17, 2005 09:15am

I believe that in the midwest, the schools with "State" in their names were the land grant universities that were founded to teach agricultural and mechanical (engineering) subjects.

dblref Thu Feb 17, 2005 02:26pm

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Originally posted by totalnewbie
:) Yeah, they lick alright.

But again, the phrase "State" is usually applied to the second-tier public university system in a particular state. "U of..." is usually the first-tier, most competitive admissions and most dedication to graduate programs and "[State Name] State..." is usually the second tier of public university in the state with more accomodating admissions standards but still an excellent university.

UNC and NC State are excellent examples.

Clark

I'm going to register a disagreement with you on this point. I grew up in Mississippi and in the state, we have the University of Mississippi (noted for its law school), Mississippi State University (noted for its agricultural school), and the University of Southern Mississippi (noted for its business school and music depart -- and the fact that I graduated there). I don't think of either of the 3 universities being 2nd or 3rd tier.

dblref Thu Feb 17, 2005 02:27pm

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Originally posted by Bush in 2004
Is this the basketball officials forum? How does this relate?
Because they play basketball in all "states".

FrankHtown Thu Feb 17, 2005 02:31pm

I'm a dweeb and researched it also. Lotto is correct. The "State" schools were "land Grant " schools, many of which started as agricultural schools, and this was back in the 50's and 60's...and I mean 1850/1860. I just googled "land grant universities" and there was more info than I cared to see, but there is no truth that the "state" schools are second tier.


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