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There's Michigan, and Michigan State.
There's probably an Oregon State. There's Savannah State, that went 0-and-whatever this season. What is the significance of the suffix "State"? |
Please don't forget "The Ohio State University".
State supported, non private schools. |
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Ok, so does that mean that Michigan goes not receive any State assistance?
How do they obtain income? Solely tuition and advertising? It seems to me that the economical thing to do is to attend a State school. |
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Michigan and Michigan state are both state schools. As are Iowa and Iowa State. Having "state" in the name is not necessary. Usually the schools that have the name of a state in their name are state schools (Iowa, Iowa State, Northern Iowa). I think it's just a differentiator between state universities.
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Many states have multiple tiers of public universities with each type of school having a different aim and focus.
Generally the universities not bearing the word "State" are the flagship research universities in the particular state. These are the "University of..." schools. These are public schools. The next tier are the "State" schools with "State" in the name. These are still "universities" in that they are they are aimed at a high level of academia and usually have a graduate school, like a law or medical school or some kind of Masters or Doctoral degree program. These offer university education but are not as competetive from an admission standpoint. Below that are usually the vocational or technical schools and the smaller "colleges" (as opposed to Universities). Many of these are private. These have more focus curriculums. Below those are the Community Colleges and JCs. Many of these are private. These are for people who for whatever reason, cant get into the more competitive schools or for other life reasons need more flexible educational situations--a working person who wants more night classes, someone who decided to get serious about school later in life, maybe they want a few specialized classes, etc. Any of them may be state funded. For example, in California there are: 1. the best public universities: the "UC" schools: University of California at Los Angeles, UC Berkeley, etc. 2. the State school universities: "California State Fulerton" or Cal State Long Beach. 3. The colleges. 4. The community collegs and JCs. That is the public university and college system. It is no reflection on the level of athletics. For example, University of California at Irvine is an excellent University, but their athletics blow. Clark |
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In NC, there is a University of North Carolina system. All 16 schools in the system are state supported. Many of them use State, such as NC State, Winston-Salem State, Elizabeth City State, and Fayetteville State. Although Carolina is referred to as THE University of North Carolina, it is actually the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. But since it's the first and oldest state supported school in the state (and the country, 1795), the Chapel Hill connotation is not used very often, except when distinguishing it with other school similiarly named in the system. I bet that's more than you wanted to know. :) |
Schools like Michigan, Illinois, Iowa, Illinois State, and Northern Iowa are "state schools." That means they are funded by the state the schools are located in. Not all states are the same, but most have some guidelines of education set by the state government as well. In some cases there might be up to 8-10 or so state schools in one state.
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:) Yeah, they lick alright.
But again, the phrase "State" is usually applied to the second-tier public university system in a particular state. "U of..." is usually the first-tier, most competitive admissions and most dedication to graduate programs and "[State Name] State..." is usually the second tier of public university in the state with more accomodating admissions standards but still an excellent university. UNC and NC State are excellent examples. Clark |
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Some universities have taken the "State" out of their name, but they are still state universities. It was once trendy to call your university "... State University". That is becasue that is the name the board of regents chose. Perhaps state legislatures wanted "State" in the name and to "grease the wheels" of progress, the board of regents agreed. The schools were originally funded and organized via acts of the States. It now seems trendy to take the "State" out. Where I currently live, the sorry state of Texas, they used to have West Texas State University and East Texas State University. They are now, West Texas A&M University and Texas A&M - Commerce. North Texas State University is now University of North Texas. Most of these universities have intermural basketball programs and use referees for those programs. |
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I don't think you can make general statements or assumptions about a school based on their name. Texas Tech University has a fine law school (and medical school I think), but the name implies it is an technical school.
Schools with the States name in it are not necessarily public. I believe the University of Southern Califonia is a private school. I went to Lamar University...many thought it was private because it did not have "State" in the name...Nope, public university. About the only thing that seems consistent (from my inexperience) is if the school is named Univ. of (State Name) - (City name) they usually $uck at football :D |
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Is it true that the crowds at these games are among the finest in the country? Of course, I'd also like to see a Duke game. My roomie, a large Duke fan, told me that Coach K has a lifetime contract. Talk about writing your own ticket. Thanks for the replies all. It is exactly what I wanted to know. And I can never know enough extra facts, aka trivia, BktBallRef. |
I have never had the opportunity to sit in a Michigan/Michigan State game at either school. If I am not mistaken these schools played in the Big Ten Men's Basketball Tournament last year. I was born in Ann Arbor and have relatives that went to Michigan and Michigan State. I can tell you there is a lot of hate (the clean kind) between the two schools and the fans. It was crazy when UM beat MSU last year in the tournament. I just know these two schools just like to kick each other's behinds in everything. Football, basketball, hockey, field hockey, baseball...... Well you get the idea.
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Here in Oregon we have Granola State and Treehugger U. However, my favorite school name is still UATG (University of Arkansas at Tooth Gap).
Sam Houston Institute of Technology and Frankfort University of Central Kentucky are good, also. |
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Many officials attended & even graduated post-high school institutions of learning (colleges and/or universities). When...errr...if you graduate high school you'll be eligible, until then just let the adults have some fun, OK? |
Being a fan of both Youngstown State University and The Ohio State University, I always get a kick out of a Michigan State University bummper sticker that says: Michigan State, the university of Michigan.
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don't forget Rutgers; THE State University of NJ!
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I believe that in the midwest, the schools with "State" in their names were the land grant universities that were founded to teach agricultural and mechanical (engineering) subjects.
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I'm a dweeb and researched it also. Lotto is correct. The "State" schools were "land Grant " schools, many of which started as agricultural schools, and this was back in the 50's and 60's...and I mean 1850/1860. I just googled "land grant universities" and there was more info than I cared to see, but there is no truth that the "state" schools are second tier.
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