Missing 2 points

[Grant]

The visiting team loses by one and when they review the tape they see the home team scorer missed 2 points with 8 minutes left, is there an appeal proccess what would happen if this was a Div 1 game

[Back In The Saddle]

Once the officials have okayed the final score and left the visual confines of the floor, it's over. That's for HS, I would assume that D-1 is the same. That's why you have two scorekeepers, one from each team, keeping score.

[tjones1]

Question: Ok, so if the score is that close...once the horn goes, usually (around here anyways) we go off the floor quickly. Now, if it was a close game you would check the book whenever you could, but what happens if an error occurs after your check and you're already in the lock room?

[rockyroad]

Situations like this are why the NCAA requires officials to come together and get a "thumbs-up" from the official scorer BEFORE they leave the court at the end of a game...

[Grant]

This game happened in a Canadian universtiy. I haven't got all the details but it was missed with about 8 minutes left. I assume the team informed the officials but when they consulted the scorers table it wasn't on the sheet. They are actually thinking of replaying it.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Grant
The visiting team loses by one and when they review the tape they see the home team scorer missed 2 points with 8 minutes left, is there an appeal proccess what would happen if this was a Div 1 game

I'm uncertain how you could tell by the tape that a scorer missed 2 points. if you mean the scoreboard, that's not official, is it? If you mean the scorebook, how could you tell by the tape?!

[LarryS]

Originally posted by rainmaker

I'm uncertain how you could tell by the tape that a scorer missed 2 points. if you mean the scoreboard, that's not official, is it? If you mean the scorebook, how could you tell by the tape?!

This is just a guess, but maybe the scorebook and scoreboard agreed. However, when the reviewed the tape they discovered the points were never added to the scoreboard. Therefore if A = B, and B is wrong it is probably safe to assume the A is also wrong.

But that is just my sometime twisted logic.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by LarryS

This is just a guess, but maybe the scorebook and scoreboard agreed. However, when the reviewed the tape they discovered the points were never added to the scoreboard. Therefore if A = B, and B is wrong it is probably safe to assume the A is also wrong.

But that is just my sometime twisted logic.

That occurred to me too, but it's at least possible that they fixed it some time in the last quarter, and that might not show up on the tape.

[theboys]

One of my first posts to this site...I think...was a 7th grade play-off game in which a home player made a three, the officials signalled it, but the book and scoreboard reflected a two. Guy next to me kept saying the score was wrong. Ultimately, the game was tied at the end of regulation and home team lost in OT. We find out later the visiting coach knew all along. You live, you learn. And, of course, you take into account the hundreds of turnovers and missed shots for each team.

[paxsonref]

Originally posted by theboys
And, of course, you take into account the hundreds of turnovers and missed shots for each team.

turnovers and missed shots? they never cost a team a game do they? I always thought it was the officials fault that a team lost! :P

[Indy_Ref]

When I'm the R on a game, I always tell the book & timer during my pre-game with them that I will look at them as I run off the court. IF there are any problems, wave me over at that time. If you don't, the score will stand whether or not it's right!

[Jimgolf]

Video can only be used to establish whether a shot at the end of a period occurred before time expired, not to verify the accuracy of the scorebook.

This situation can be brought to the attention of the league so that they can see if this problem recurs and is part of a pattern. But that game is history.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by Jimgolf
Video can only be used to establish whether a shot at the end of a period occurred before time expired, not to verify the accuracy of the scorebook.

This situation can be brought to the attention of the league so that they can see if this problem recurs and is part of a pattern. But that game is history.

If it's an NCAA game, then you definately can use the monitor to check the accuracy of the scorebook.

Rule 2
Section 5. Officials Use of Replay/Television Equipment

Art. 1. Officials may use courtside replay equipment, videotape or television monitoring only in situations involving:

d. Preventing or rectifying a scoring or timing mistake by the scorer or timer involving the game clock or shot clock;