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Nevadaref Thu Feb 03, 2005 09:25am
Re: Coaches with rule books
 
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Originally posted by Almost Always Right
We had a crew here where a coach brought out a rule book in the middle of the game. I told them they should've walked over, turned it to 10.5 and said you're gonna have plenty of time to read this tonight coach, good bye!!
Of course, I was one of the officials on this game! :D Seriously! It's been an eventful season for me. :)

The coach was upset with one of my partner's decisions and had just had a player and the team manager killed in a car accident the previous week, so I stayed out of it when she brought the rules book to the table at the end of the first half.

Under normal circumstances, I T the coach for this.

I would have called a T on the head coach in Rich's situation too, and I also don't believe that qualifies as a dunk.

Man In Blue Thu Feb 03, 2005 09:26am
Bringing a rule book out- or puttinging it in my face is a T every time. Period. The coach is looking for a fight and it is time to set him down. Shorter string rather than longer. You got the call right and shouldn't be embarrised by it. Take control of the game. This is not a time for preventive messures. The rule has been broken and it is time for enforcement.

bob jenkins Thu Feb 03, 2005 09:54am
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Originally posted by Leggs45
I would also give this coach a little more rope than normal at the start of the game because of the situation. I would let him be a little more vocal and animated on the sideline but, I would not let it contniue on for too long before I warned him.
Let me understand -- A coach who complains gets MORE "rope" than a coach who doesn't? It seems to me that the coach who complains is using up his rope, not getting more.

Adam Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:26am
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by Leggs45
I would also give this coach a little more rope than normal at the start of the game because of the situation. I would let him be a little more vocal and animated on the sideline but, I would not let it contniue on for too long before I warned him.
Let me understand -- A coach who complains gets MORE "rope" than a coach who doesn't? It seems to me that the coach who complains is using up his rope, not getting more.
I agree. You're giving him more rope because he wanted a cheap technical? Not me. I'll give him a seatbelt, but no more rope.

Leggs45 Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:32am
Hindsight is always 20-20. That is what we also call experitence. Learn from it and be a better prepared if it happens again.

The information about the accident and a killed player is something I would have talked about during my pregame. When I talk about coach/team tendencies I try to get a feel for what type of game to expect before I walk out onto the court. In this case, I would have expected a very emotional game.

And that's what you got from beginning to end. At some point prior to the 4th quarter, the coach should have been warned. I would not let his behavior continue that long.

I still think you did the right thing by not giving him a T during pre-game.

dblref Fri Feb 04, 2005 09:05am
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Originally posted by Leggs45
Hindsight is always 20-20. That is what we also call experitence. Learn from it and be a better prepared if it happens again.

The information about the accident and a killed player is something I would have talked about during my pregame. When I talk about coach/team tendencies I try to get a feel for what type of game to expect before I walk out onto the court. In this case, I would have expected a very emotional game.

And that's what you got from beginning to end. At some point prior to the 4th quarter, the coach should have been warned. I would not let his behavior continue that long.

I still think you did the right thing by not giving him a T during pre-game.
If I am reading this thread correctly, these are 2 different games. Regarding Rich's game, I personnaly would not give the coach "more rope" -- would probably be less rope. You explained yourself and he did not want to accept the explaination. His tough luck.


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