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Defender has great position inside the low block. She is standing stock still with her hands straight up. As the dribbler comes screaming in parallel to the endline, defender "firms up" to take the charge, and in the process moves her hands back behind the plane of the rest of her body. Arms stay very straight. But at the last second, dribbler stops, scoops up the ball and shoots up and over. Defender's hands and arms come back into the plane, and as the players end up nose to nose, with virtually no body contact, their hands meet at the top. It almost looked like a high-5 with four hands. There was a definite slapping sound, but neither player ever moved her hands out of her plane. I no-called it, fans screamed, shot went, and the game moved forward. Was I right? 
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Tue Feb 01, 2005, 08:24pm
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Yes.
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Tue Feb 01, 2005, 08:25pm
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I would say that one of the players had to be out of the plane otherwise there wouldn't be contact. But as you describe it, the defender stayed within her vertical plane and thus is in legal guarding position. Sounds to me like you were right on.
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Tue Feb 01, 2005, 08:30pm
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Sounds like a good no call.
Clean up top, play on.
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Tue Feb 01, 2005, 09:43pm
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That was the call ie no call as defender did no wrong. You know by now that players coaches and fans have no understanding that defenders have rights. I recently had a discussion with one of our senior educators about this and we all agreed that as long as they are within the cyclinder the player can shake and shimmy as much as they like.
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Wed Feb 02, 2005, 12:56pm
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That was a kind of POE a couple of years ago here. If the defender has been on that spot since 1985, is straight up, and there is contact, why on earth would we penalize the defender? Sounds like a great no-call to me. The crap from the fans should be further evidence of that!
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Wed Feb 02, 2005, 01:09pm
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Contact on elbow and all I hear is, "ALL BALL!" The kid could not have reached the ball with a trampoline. 
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Wed Feb 02, 2005, 01:58pm
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Juulie - one way to tell you made the right call is if the fans scream. The other is if at least one coach disagrees with you.
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Wed Feb 02, 2005, 05:21pm
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The reason I asked the quetsion is because the defender did move her arms and hands. They moved from well behind her head to straight up. They moved toward the dribbler, but never in front of the plane of her body. Because of the movement, it started to feel like a foul, but I held the whistle a second, and then realized that the contact was just literally straight up, hands only.
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Wed Feb 02, 2005, 05:37pm
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Juulie,
I would have loved to have seen that play! Sounds like a great no call. No body parts touching but hands, right? Couldn't be anything else in my book!
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Wed Feb 02, 2005, 06:02pm
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