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Man In Blue Fri Jan 28, 2005 02:00pm

I have finally started the move up. I am doing alot of sub varsity and small school varsity.

I am now at the point where I have to be more the R than the U. When you work with a "new" official should you make more of the calls that he misses? You know, the calls that he doesn't make that are clear but he still has the deer in the headlight look.


joseph2493 Fri Jan 28, 2005 02:04pm

When I see that my "new" partner is missing a lot of calls, I will commonly step up and pick up some the calls in his/her area.

Think back to when you were "new" and your veteran partner had to do the same thing for you.

Remember to mention it to him/her later...in a respectful teaching tone.

zebraman Fri Jan 28, 2005 02:15pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Man In Blue
I have finally started the move up. I am doing alot of sub varsity and small school varsity.

I am now at the point where I have to be more the R than the U. When you work with a "new" official should you make more of the calls that he misses? You know, the calls that he doesn't make that are clear but he still has the deer in the headlight look.


It's a delicate balance. You want to "expand" your primary a little bit to help your partner, but if you step in and do everything, then you become an enabler and they don't learn to blow their whistle. I'll go get the trainwreck calls, but I'll let my partner live and die by the other stuff and we'll discuss it later.

The major thing I do when working with a "deer" is to tell them that I will handle EVERYTHING that doesn't concern fouls and violations so they can just concentrate on the 84' feet of court.

Z

mick Fri Jan 28, 2005 02:32pm

Quote:

Originally posted by zebraman

It's a delicate balance. You want to "expand" your primary a little bit to help your partner, ....

In agreeing with Z, I, too, think we must be wary (and weary) of the distance and frequency. Once we make a token call 10' outa our primary, another call 10'-15' outa the zone is even easier.

It gets more and more tempting to go where and when we shouldn't. Lots of discretion should be used.
mick

joseph2493 Fri Jan 28, 2005 02:59pm

Quote:

Originally posted by joseph2493
When I see that my "new" partner is missing a lot of calls, I will commonly step up and pick up some the calls in his/her area.

Think back to when you were "new" and your veteran partner had to do the same thing for you.

Remember to mention it to him/her later...in a respectful teaching tone.

Maybe I need to rephrase. I will commonly go into his/her area and grab the calls that have to be called.

I agree that we don't need to grab the little stuff or they will not learn...then go back and explain the "block/charge" call was theirs.

gordon30307 Fri Jan 28, 2005 05:05pm

Quote:

Originally posted by joseph2493
When I see that my "new" partner is missing a lot of calls, I will commonly step up and pick up some the calls in his/her area.

Think back to when you were "new" and your veteran partner had to do the same thing for you.

Remember to mention it to him/her later...in a respectful teaching tone.

If you're working your Primary and are on ball for example why would you "see" what's happening off ball in your partners primary? Get the stuff where you have dual coverage or the coverage overlaps and by all means get the train wrecks. Trust your partner.

mick Fri Jan 28, 2005 05:14pm

Quote:

Originally posted by gordon30307
Quote:

Originally posted by joseph2493
When I see that my "new" partner is missing a lot of calls, I will commonly step up and pick up some the calls in his/her area.

Think back to when you were "new" and your veteran partner had to do the same thing for you.

Remember to mention it to him/her later...in a respectful teaching tone.

If you're working your Primary and are on ball for example why would you "see" what's happening off ball in your partners primary? Get the stuff where you have dual coverage or the coverage overlaps and by all means get the train wrecks. Trust your partner.

gordon30307,
In the sitch the partner needed a few more games to instill that trust. I've worked with that guy! :)
mick



rviotto13 Fri Jan 28, 2005 05:57pm

Hey Mick
 
Hello Mick,

I am from the UP looking at officiating some games in the summer fall etc. . Since i am from the UP and you are an assignor i would like to talk to you.

Thanks for your time
RV

mick Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:28pm

Re: Hey Mick
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rviotto13
Hello Mick,

I am from the UP looking at officiating some games in the summer fall etc. . Since i am from the UP and you are an assignor i would like to talk to you.

Thanks for your time
RV

Howzitgoin' rviotto13,
Nope there are no assignors in the U.P.
I'll e-mail you tomorrow. ;)
mick

mick Sat Jan 29, 2005 09:48am

Re: Re: Hey RV
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by rviotto13
Hello Mick,

I am from the UP looking at officiating some games in the summer fall etc. . Since i am from the UP and you are an assignor i would like to talk to you.

Thanks for your time
RV

Howzitgoin' rviotto13,
Nope there are no assignors in the U.P.
I'll e-mail you tomorrow. ;)
mick

RV,
Your E-dress doesn't work.
...Bounced back.
mick

rviotto13 Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:32am

Mick

Try this

[email protected]

Thanks
RV


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