Duke/MD held ball calls

[BBall_Junkie]

Originally posted by David B

I am going to agree with all of you that I don't think any D1 official that I know of would give any kind of a "home field advantage", and I watch a LOT of basketball.

But Coach K has lots of pull and last night in the last three minutes of the game, I know of three or four calls that all went to Duke that were questionable. If might be just a freak, but it did make me wonder.

Even Dickie V (Mr. Duke himself) questioned a couple of them.

But, as we all know from calling games ourselves, it probably was just a matter of circumstance. I know of games where all of the calls just seem to go towards one team,

But, but with Coach K right in the officials ear and there was a no call, just makes you wonder doesn't it?

Just a thought.

Thanks
David

No it doesn't make me wonder, because I saw Coach Williams in the ears of the refs all night too. He is a big time coach as well with a NC under his belt.

[Larks]

That duke kid definately cleared some space by displacing the defender with his forearm to get that layup (just under 4 in the 2nd)

But they passed and have probably forgotten more than I'll ever know about reffing....

Memo to Dookie Fan....Make shots down the stretch! Seemed like they went 5 trips in a row either missing a rushed shot or not being able to secure a rebound. It "felt" to me like MD had a lot more composure in the last 10 min of the game...

Larks - I call perfect games everytime......from the couch with my tivo!

[BBall_Junkie]

Originally posted by Larks


Larks - I call perfect games everytime......from the couch with my tivo!

LOL. Me too. Haven't missed on yet from the couch with my tivo instant replay button. Can't figure out why I can't getthe Big Time ESPN games with my accuracy and this method though. Welmer, Hightower, et al must have pictures of someone

[WinterWillie]

Originally posted by BBall_Junkie
Overall I think they did an excellent job.

You'd better look at the 1,207 replays again. That was a poorly officiated game.


[Edited by BBall_Junkie on Jan 27th, 2005 at 11:41 AM]

[missinglink]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
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The foul that wasn't called on Sheldon Williams was the biggest miss of the night. MD player goes up to dunk and Williams grabs his forearm, nowhere near the ball. Of course, ESPN showed it over and over. But they were right. That's a foul in any league.

[/B]

While your example was the most egregious, I think the biggest swallowed whistle was late in the game under 4 minutes when Williams got the ball on the low left block, Shaq-shouldered the MD post defender back a couple of steps, then dunked the ball. MD post had good position, Williams displaced him without doubt and no call. Great no-call in the NBA, but clear foul in this game. Duke lost due to poor shooting/shot selection, but this no-call late in the game could have been pivotal.

[BBall_Junkie]

Originally posted by WinterWillie

You'd better look at the 1,207 replays again. That was a poorly officiated game.


[Edited by BBall_Junkie on Jan 27th, 2005 at 11:41 AM]

and your credentials to evaluate are....???

BTW... I didn't edit your post. I accidentally hit the edit button instead of the quote button.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by David B

But, but with Coach K right in the officials ear and there was a no call, just makes you wonder doesn't it?

Trust me - "Coach W" does it just as often as Coach K.

I'm just glad UMD won - GW isn't having a great week, but this will help our RPI . . . barely.

[WinterWillie]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BBall_Junkie

and your credentials to evaluate are....???

having worked national championship games under the watchfull eye of many assessors.... I guarantee you that the crew doing that game took some heat afterwards...

[tomegun]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by WinterWillie

Originally posted by BBall_Junkie

having worked national championship games under the watchfull eye of many assessors.... I guarantee you that the crew doing that game took some heat afterwards...

Are you saying you worked NCAA championship games? Also, if you have, I've never heard the term assessor when talking about a basketball evaluator. Since you know it was such a horrible game I will keep my eye out for a video play from this game. The ACC assigner WILL put a play up if the game was that bad.

I have an off-topic question. If you guys had a cable box and the option if getting a cable box with built-in DVR for $10/month or TIVO which one would you get? I'm just wondering how the TIVO will be able to record things without me manually setting the cable box to the correct channel.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by BBall_Junkie

Call it the home court advantage.

[/B]

Home court advantage??? The officials who work this level don't let home court filter in. Unless someone can prove otherwise these comments are unjustified.

[/B][/QUOTE]Agree. An official in any D1 league wouldn't last long if there was even a hint of a "home court advantage" involved--in any of their games. Coaches really don't want an official that might give them a few breaks at home. They're worried about getting the same guy when they go on the road.

[zebraman]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by WinterWillie

Originally posted by BBall_Junkie

having worked national championship games under the watchfull eye of many assessors.... I guarantee you that the crew doing that game took some heat afterwards...

What does the assessed value of your home have to do basketball? And officiating the national championship of tiddlywinks doesn't count.

Z

[blindzebra]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by tomegun

Originally posted by WinterWillie

Are you saying you worked NCAA championship games? Also, if you have, I've never heard the term assessor when talking about a basketball evaluator. Since you know it was such a horrible game I will keep my eye out for a video play from this game. The ACC assigner WILL put a play up if the game was that bad.

I have an off-topic question. If you guys had a cable box and the option if getting a cable box with built-in DVR for $10/month or TIVO which one would you get? I'm just wondering how the TIVO will be able to record things without me manually setting the cable box to the correct channel.

They cost about the same. The box rental and programing fee is about the same as the programing fee for TIVO. You will have to buy your own TIVO box and have whatever warranty comes with it. If something happens to your rental you get a new one.

I love it. It automatically records 1 hour of whatever you are watching, so if the phone rings or nature calls, you just rewind it and watch the recording and catch up to "live" during commercials.

It comes in great for looking at plays. You can record two things at the same time, and it has picture-in-picture so you can follow two shows.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally posted by BBall_Junkie

LOL. Me too. Haven't missed on yet from the couch with my tivo instant replay button. Can't figure out why I can't getthe Big Time ESPN games with my accuracy and this method though. Welmer, Hightower, et al must have pictures of someone

I think it's harder to get a good angle on off-ball stuff with this technique.

[tomegun]

Blindzebra, my question is more about setting a program to record and how Tivo will interact with my cable box. I have a DVR right now in the bedroom and it is super-simple as far as setting something to record in advance. You can't change the channel while recording. On the TV where I'm putting the next one it has picture-in-picture so there is a splitter with one feed going straight to the TV and the other feed going through the cable box first. The Tivo unit would have to be between the cable box and TV like the VCR is (moving that) so I need to know if I will have to manually set the channel on the cable box to record on the Tivo like I have to do now for the VCR. I don't even use picture-in-picture because the TV is High Definition and the picture is great!

Once again I'm sorry for being off-topic. With the talk about Tivo and the fact that I'm changing some stuff around in my family room I got to thinking about my options.

[blindzebra]

Originally posted by tomegun
Blindzebra, my question is more about setting a program to record and how Tivo will interact with my cable box. I have a DVR right now in the bedroom and it is super-simple as far as setting something to record in advance. You can't change the channel while recording. On the TV where I'm putting the next one it has picture-in-picture so there is a splitter with one feed going straight to the TV and the other feed going through the cable box first. The Tivo unit would have to be between the cable box and TV like the VCR is (moving that) so I need to know if I will have to manually set the channel on the cable box to record on the Tivo like I have to do now for the VCR. I don't even use picture-in-picture because the TV is High Definition and the picture is great!

Once again I'm sorry for being off-topic. With the talk about Tivo and the fact that I'm changing some stuff around in my family room I got to thinking about my options.

I'd go with the cable box DVR, same cost no hassles. Some boxes have a VCR link that can control your VCR, I don't know if TIVO has a similar device. Some cable boxes have a guide feature that allows you to set a VCR timer for a show in the future.