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Ref Daddy Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:59am


I have a growing and I think legitimate concern. Asking experience and consensus.

When we fill out our pay slips at the start of the game - there is a lot of valuable and personal data made available, in duplicate and left laying around the cash box.

As a reasonably aware reader of current events the increase of identity theft is a growing and extremely frustrating occurrence.

A name, address and Social security number – as is placed on all our pay sheets – could be a disaster in the wrong hands.

Comments?

tjones1 Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:02pm

I know your feeling. I have actually stopped putting my SS# on my contracts. If they need it I have no problem giving it to them, however the AD of the school is going to have to call me and request it.

ref18 Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:04pm

I won't put my SS# on a credit card application let alone give it to a coach or AD.

If they need it they're gonna have to request it.

This makes me glad that all my pay is filtered through the association, that way they're the only ones who have my personal information.

Ref Daddy Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:07pm


We get paid directly by the schools. Every game will fill out new vouchers requesting SS# and other information.

They are left with the cash box. Heavens knews where that goes and who gets their hands on it.


LarryS Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:09pm

While I can understand your concern, most of the places I have gone has security at the table because of the cash (we generally complete the paperwork there so a district/school employee is sure the information is gathered). That makes it less likely that someone, other than those working "the gate" is going to get the information.

Besides, there is nothing to stop anyone working for any of the schools from randomly handing out that information on any individual being paid.

Guess you could ask that the information be put in a "secure" area (like maybe folded and put in the bottom of the cash box) but I'm not sure that would dramatically reduce your risk.

Grail Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:12pm

In Illinois, officials need to opt out of having their address and phone number posted on the IHSA general website. Anyone who so desires can go to the site, click on officials directory and get that information.

rainmaker Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:24pm

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Originally posted by Grail
In Illinois, officials need to opt out of having their address and phone number posted on the IHSA general website. Anyone who so desires can go to the site, click on officials directory and get that information.
Wow, that's not good at all. Why do refs not get this changed?


Dan_ref Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:24pm


I give them Chuck's SS# so it's not a concern for me.


tjones1 Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:27pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

I give them Chuck's SS# so it's not a concern for me.

:D

tjones1 Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:30pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by Grail
In Illinois, officials need to opt out of having their address and phone number posted on the IHSA general website. Anyone who so desires can go to the site, click on officials directory and get that information.
Wow, that's not good at all. Why do refs not get this changed?

I think the main reason is because this is where AD's get their contact information. I could be wrong. I know as officials, in our Official's Center, we have a feature that we can look up officials, etc. I'm not sure if this feature is a part of the School's Center or not. I would guess it would be, but sometimes the way AD's call me asking if I know anyone makes me wonder.

BktBallRef Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:36pm

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Originally posted by LarryS
Guess you could ask that the information be put in a "secure" area (like maybe folded and put in the bottom of the cash box) but I'm not sure that would dramatically reduce your risk.

If one is that concerned about it, why not just throw a few envelopes in your bag. Put the pay slip in the envelope when you complete it and seal it.

rainmaker Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:40pm

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Originally posted by tjones1
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Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by Grail
In Illinois, officials need to opt out of having their address and phone number posted on the IHSA general website. Anyone who so desires can go to the site, click on officials directory and get that information.
Wow, that's not good at all. Why do refs not get this changed?

I think the main reason is because this is where AD's get their contact information. I could be wrong. I know as officials, in our Official's Center, we have a feature that we can look up officials, etc. I'm not sure if this feature is a part of the School's Center or not. I would guess it would be, but sometimes the way AD's call me asking if I know anyone makes me wonder.

Our roster is available on our website, but not to the public. You have to apply for a password, and have it granted. Surely the IHSA could do that for AD's and refs.

Smitty Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:45pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by tjones1
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Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by Grail
In Illinois, officials need to opt out of having their address and phone number posted on the IHSA general website. Anyone who so desires can go to the site, click on officials directory and get that information.
Wow, that's not good at all. Why do refs not get this changed?

I think the main reason is because this is where AD's get their contact information. I could be wrong. I know as officials, in our Official's Center, we have a feature that we can look up officials, etc. I'm not sure if this feature is a part of the School's Center or not. I would guess it would be, but sometimes the way AD's call me asking if I know anyone makes me wonder.

Our roster is available on our website, but not to the public. You have to apply for a password, and have it granted. Surely the IHSA could do that for AD's and refs.

Even with our website showing our contact info, I wouldn't want my SS# being posted on the site.

tjones1 Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:45pm

Refs have their own ID number (used for ratings) and it's their login. Only officials can access this page. You can, take exams, search for officials, change your personal information, etc. AD have their own as well because they are allowed to rate officials. So I would guess they have this feature as well. Just makes me wonder sometimes! :) And actually, I'm heading over to IHSA right now to get my name pulled.

IAUMP Wed Jan 19, 2005 01:09pm

While I don't do basketball I do officiate football, and we normally have to complete the paperwork before the game. We simply hand it to the AD. Why can't you do this with you basketball vouchers?


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