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Old Fri Dec 31, 2004, 11:12pm
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I know I have a few years, but I was just wondering how does calling college ball work?

How do you get into it?
Do you have meetings?
How many games a week/month?
What is the pay?
Can you call mens and womens?

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Old Sat Jan 01, 2005, 12:40am
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I know I have a few years, but I was just wondering how does calling college ball work?

How do you get into it?
Do you have meetings?
How many games a week/month?
What is the pay?
Can you call mens and womens?

Thanks.

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Brandan,

Some officials get picked up at "tryout camps." Others get invited by word of mouth or get seen by the right person at the right time. It varies. I got asked to do a college summer league and then got asked to do games based on working those summer games (but then I declined due to the conflict with family).

Number of games a week/month depends on many variables.

Pay varies by level and conference.

At the college level, I do not know of any officials who work both mens and womens. Usually an official chooses one or the other.

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Old Sat Jan 01, 2005, 12:53am
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How do you get into it?
Go to camps run by the assignors.

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Do you have meetings?
Usually the conference assignor will have a preseason meeting. You also can go to the one of the 8 or so NCAA Rules Meetings held across the country.

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How many games a week/month?
I have worked as many as 1 to about 10 in one months. It varies from year to year.

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What is the pay?
I have made $80-$125 for a JUCO or D3 game.

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Can you call mens and womens?
Usually you have to do one or the other. Most officials cannot do both at the same time. Especially the higher you go up in the college ranks.

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Old Sat Jan 01, 2005, 12:55am
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How many different levels are there. Does it take up alot of your time?
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Old Sat Jan 01, 2005, 01:22am
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How many different levels are there. Does it take up alot of your time?
Junior College
NAIA
NCAA D-3
NCAA D-2
NCAA D-1

How much time it takes up depends on many things. However, to be a successful referee at the college level (or the H.S. level for that matter) certainly requires time and dedication.

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Old Sun Jan 02, 2005, 09:19am
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Brandon, I can't speak for all levels of college ball, or for all areas of the country, so I'll just give you my personal experience, if that's alright.

I work D2/D3 in New England. I belong to the College Basketball Officials' Association (CBOA) and my games are assigned primarily through the Eastern College Athletic Conference (ECAC).

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How do you get into it?

It varies. As Rut said, many D1 conferences have try-out camps. In my case, I filled out an application, and had to get 3 recommendations from current CBOA officials. I got accepted into CBOA on an "associate" basis (basically JV games). After a couple years of that, I got "promoted" to varsity. Now, however, you have to fill out the application, but you also have to attend a try-out at a college scrimmage.

The ECAC assigns both men's and women's games. The officials who work the women's games have their own association (not CBOA). There are also other college officials associations in New England, but CBOA is the biggest and covers the most schools.

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Do you have meetings?

In my region, we have a mandatory pre-season meeting and an optional mid-season meeting.

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How many games a week/month?
How about per season? I get 15-20 games per season (D2/D3) and another handful of juco games. So the number per week/month varies. I had 4 games in December, but I have about 10 in January.

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What is the pay?

Juco (2-whistle) $110
D3 (2-whistle) $130 or $135. I can't remember which. . .
D3 (3-whistle) $118.
D2 (3-whistle) $140.
D1 varies by conference, but the minimum is about $400.

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Can you call mens and womens?

I don't know anybody who does. I was told by a D1 men's assignor that he can't use anyone who also does women's ball b/c the coaches complain about getting a "women's official".

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Does it take up alot of your time?
Again, it varies depending on your schedule. But consider that we're required to get to the game site 1.5 hours before game time. The game takes roughly an hour and 45 minutes to 2 hours. Plus, college ball requires a lot more travel (in my neck of the woods anyway) than HS ball. An hour and a half drive is not uncommon. When I go to Vermont, the trip is more like 3 hours. So for a "short" road trip, figure an hour and a half drive each way (3 hrs total), get there an hour and a half early, plus the game. It turns into a 6.5 or 7 hour day. So there goes my Saturday. Either that, or I'm getting home at midnight on a school night.

And that doesn't even include the time and money that I put into camps during the summer, just so I can have a couple drinks with Dan.

Now ask me if I'd give it up.
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Old Sun Jan 02, 2005, 01:48pm
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Thanks for all the information Chuck. It really was helpful. Now, for the question you've all been waiting for........ Would you give it up ? :-p
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Old Sun Jan 02, 2005, 01:52pm
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Old Sun Jan 02, 2005, 03:58pm
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Brandon, I am trying to do more college ball. I think it depends on what you like to do.

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Old Sun Jan 02, 2005, 04:40pm
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Well as stated before, I am only 15 and have a few years, but I would like to get into College ball when I am old enough. What is the age requirement, anyone know?
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Old Sun Jan 02, 2005, 04:51pm
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I do not know if there is an "official" age requirement. But I would assume that they want someone older than the players you will be officiating. This would depend on who is assigning those games in your area.

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Old Sun Jan 02, 2005, 09:11pm
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Well as stated before, I am only 15 and have a few years, but I would like to get into College ball when I am old enough. What is the age requirement, anyone know?
There's no age requirement that I have ever heard of for college ball. I know a NCAAW official who started working D3 at the age on 19. He is now 25 and works all levels of NCAAW ball.
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Old Sun Jan 02, 2005, 10:16pm
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And that doesn't even include the time and money that I put into camps during the summer, just so I can have a couple drinks with Dan.
You pay to attend those camps??
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Old Sun Jan 02, 2005, 11:06pm
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Yes.
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Old Mon Jan 03, 2005, 10:00am
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You pay to attend those camps??
Yes, but on the plus side, I've gotten enough diplomas to wallpaper my home office.
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