My question is this, Just wondering as a first year official and I'm R . Whats the best things to say to captains and to coaches. I know the basics, but I was wondering if anybody had suggestions that are not so bland or boring. thanks for any comments!!!!! chris

Make sure you and your team keep their shirts tucked it at all times, if we need anything we will come to you. Play a clean game, and good luck.

I could care less about their shirts. Tell them that sportsmanship is of utmost importance. Tell them about anything quirky in that gym. Otherwise, they don't want to listen to you anyway.

The shorter the better and make sure you always do a zipper check before you go on the floor.:D

This is my pre-game, probably takes 2 minutes tops if that: I tell the players to introduce themselves to the other team. Floor captin for white, floor captin for red (or whatever the colors are). Ok gentlemen/ladies we are going to come to you if we have any problems, you come to us if you have any problems. Sportsmanship is the number one thing. Coaches, players properly equiped? Good luck!

And MEGA DITTOS to blindzebra, I was watching a game on a night off and watching the officials. And during halftime one of the officials forgot to zip it up. Well let's just say that the home teams student section let him know and everyone know by a little chant..."Zip your fly clap, clap, clap clap clap."

It depends on your jurisdiction. In my state of Illinois we have to make a Sportsmanship statement. We also have to ask the coaches if their players are properly equip and legally ready to play. Outside of that I ask for a speaking captain on each team and tell the players good luck. My meeting usually lasts about 30 seconds.

This is an example of what I say.

"Coaches are your players properly equip? (They say yes all the time) Gentleman this is an IHSA game under NF rules, we are going to adhere to sportsmanship, any questions? (They say no all the time) Who is my speaking captain for (home team)? Who is the speaking captain for (visiting team)? Any questions? (They never ask one) Good luck gentleman and have a good game."

Meeting is then over and everyone goes back to doing what they did before.

Peace

Chris, for the most part, the meeting is a waste of time. The kids will have forgotten everything you're told them by the time they go back to warm up. The coaches only do it because it's required. They would just as soon not have to do it either.

Make it short and sweet, and get it over with.

Respect
 

Introduction of my partner and myself goes like this, "This is Mr./Ms .... and I'm Mr..... We are your officials for this morning, afternoon, evening..."
It may be just a personal quirk left over from the Semper Fi days, but respect is not outdated and neither the coaches or players need to know or call me by my first name...
Merry Christmas!

My Coaches and Captains meetings go as follows: Assuming no quirky courts. Introduce captains, Coaches are your player legally and properly equipted? Wait for answer. Any questions? Have a good game. Usually lasts about a minute.

Re: Respect
 

Except that I expect the coaches to use my name and I want to use theirs.

Respect? I have as much for the coach as I expect to receive from them.

I know one thing -- this is a purely individual thing, just wanted to get out there that there are some of us who introduce ourselves to the coaches by first name and already know their names when we meet them (so we can use them: Jim, Great to see you tonight. I'm Rich. Etc.).

--Rich

As for basketball, what is the purpose of asking if everyone is properly equipped? If you have 5-10 players on the floor that are wearing the same uniform, isn't that properly equipped. Do you have to do a sports bra or an athletic support cup check? just wondering. If its for a brace or a cast, that would be handled one on one to check it yourself. Just curious. Now baseball I could see.

Asking the head coach to verify that all players are properly equipped places the liability on the coach. He verifies that all players are equipped per the rules. If it's then determined that a player is not properly equipped and the player is injured, it lessens the liability of the officials.

Also, you don't check anything. If you see an illegal item, you sit the player down until it's removed. Sports bras and athletic support cups are not required. Casts are not allowed.

BTW, in football, if a player is discovered to be improperly equipped while on the field, it's a 15 yard USC penalty on the head coach. Maybe we'll see a T on the coach some day for this same type of situation.

capt's meeting
 

MHSAA requires that we give the sportsman talk...short or long as you want...I always say 2 things (because I've been burnt by these) 1. when the whistle blows we have made up our minds and I expect play to STOP. 2. subs dont come on to the floor until an OFFICAL brings you on. Gentlemen have a great game.

Re: capt's meeting
 

Clover, the problem is that:

#1 - Those kids are not going to tell the teammates what you've said.

#2 - They're going to forget what you said 30 seconds after they go back to warm up.

The meeting just doesn't mean anything to those kids.

Agree with Tony.

Ask them if they have any questions, say good luck, and let 'em go.

If I know I have a particularly contentious game with potential problems, I "may" BRIEFLY emphasize whatever point(s) (no more than 2) that need to be addressed. Otherwise, get in, get out, FAST.

They want to keep warming up, not talk to you.

If your league or association requires a certain format, just keep it as short as possible.

If the want to listen or not is up to them, but we have to do it here in Louisiana.

Re: Re: capt's meeting
 

I agree with you for the most part Tony.

Here is the exception:

I've reffed at a gym where some markings on the floor are quite confusing. Maybe because there are too many lines, maybe because of something else.

If I've had a problem at a gym in the past, I make it a special point to tell the captains that, "I'd really like it if you tell your coach what I'm about to tell you. (blah blah blah.) Please tell your coach to tell the rest of the team becuase I don't want to see a basket that you scored to be taken away."

I then stand at centre and watch the captains go right to their coach and see him/her nod. Almost without fail when I talk to the coaches after the captains, they tell me that their player told them. I know it's rare, but my point is that the one time per season, when I ask them to please tell their coach, they do. It's a rather nice feeling.

I've been in gyms like that as well. And I agree that you have to point out those type of ground rules. But telling the captains to make sure their subs don't enter until they're beckoned and similiar things is a waste. it's never going beyond the captains, who will soon forget.

While I understnad you're probably require to ask who the speaking captain is, discuss sportsmanship, etc. I bet you aren't required to say a lot of these other things that are being mentioned.

Nope, we have this little card each year that they give us at this camp I go to and there are like 3 things to touch up on which include on one side coaches meeting and other side cap meeting.

Coach:
Time out let us know full or 30 asap.
Kicking rule blah blah blah
basically the POE.

Capt:
Shirts at all times
Sportsmanship
Good Luck


[Edited by brandan89 on Dec 27th, 2004 at 01:21 AM]

One thing about it, if every crew at every game reads the kicking rule and the POE to both coaches, they damn sure ought to know the rules. :D

Re: Re: Respect
 

I know one thing -- this is a purely individual thing, just wanted to get out there that there are some of us who introduce ourselves to the coaches by first name and already know their names when we meet them (so we can use them: Jim, Great to see you tonight. I'm Rich. Etc.).

--Rich [/B][/QUOTE]

Rich... A number of my friends do the same and it is an individual thing. However, I want to show the coaches the same respect I would show any educator. I personally would never walk into my daughter's classroom and call her teacher by his or her first name in front of the class. And while Bob and I can talk about hunting or fishing here in Montana off the court, I'll address him as coach in front of his team, in front of the other team, in front of the fans, and, in fact, anytime I am on the floor.
With the range of travel we have here in MT, I rarely know both of the coaches in any given game. But one of the last things that I would want is any coach to say to me during a contest ..... C'mon Chuck, you ( or my partner) are...... implying directly or indirecty that we are buddies.
They can address me "Hey Ref" or if they remember they can call me Mr. Lewis.... But if any of them call me Chuck, you can bet that I won't be responding to them readily... And I don't believe that Ms. Manners would reprimand you severely for saying, "Hey Coach, it's great to see ya tonight!"

Re: Re: Re: Respect
 

Ooooooooohhhhh, so this is the enigmatic "Chuck" in the squirrel picture! Finally, the mystery is solved!!

My mentor does that...addresses coaches by their first name, and claims he has great success with it. Of course, he's been reffing like 15 years, and knows most of the coaches. His theory is that it is one professional talking to another. He says if he was in an office with the coach, he wouldn't say "hey coach"...he'd call him "Jim" or "Bob"....and he says he makes it a point early on in the game to address each coach at least once, so there's no "old buddy" thing going on.

Me?...I'm not comfortable with it. I'll stick with "Coach" and "Hey Ref" for the time being.

"Your Red Your White (pending on actual colors)

Keep Shirts in

When whistle blows get the ball back to the closest official

Play defense with feet not hands."

I always ask my part if they have anything.

Then I wish captains good luck and send them on their way.

One minute tops

[Edited by joseph2493 on Dec 28th, 2004 at 02:52 PM]