call foul or not to call foul?

[chrs_schuster]

My question is, early in JV girls game last night A1 steps into passing lane of B1 steals pass. While dribbling over half court she gets grabbed by B1. Possible breakaway. I blow my whistle call holding on B1. Coach of A1 says "good foul but I would have wanted the lay-up" So my question as a first year official is do I let the play go or do I stop the play and call foul. Just wondering what other refs would do? thanks chris

[Camron Rust]

Originally posted by chrs_schuster
My question is, early in JV girls game last night A1 steps into passing lane of B1 steals pass. While dribbling over half court she gets grabbed by B1. Possible breakaway. I blow my whistle call holding on B1. Coach of A1 says "good foul but I would have wanted the lay-up" So my question as a first year official is do I let the play go or do I stop the play and call foul. Just wondering what other refs would do? thanks chris

Be slow on the whistle, if 1-2 steps after the contact it is clear the foul took away the opportunity, then call the foul. If the dribbler has a direct line to a layup and is good enough to play through the foul, you can pass on it.

[imaref]

Intentional Foul by B1. 2 FTs for A1. Ball out of bounds at the spot of foul for throw in by Team A. Coach of Team A should be satisfied.

Intentional fouls "should" be enforced early in the game just as you would be looking for them near the end of the game. (Intentional fouls are not just reserved for calling at end of the game situations.)

wl

[Edited by imaref on Dec 18th, 2004 at 05:23 PM]

[JRutledge]

I agree that you could call an intentional foul, but did the grasp prevent the ball handler from going to the hoop? And did the defender play the ball at all or did they just grab them with no attempt at the ball? For me it depends on what action took place and how it affected the play. It is really hard to say without more information or seeing the play myself.

Peace

[imaref]

Correcto...Mundo!

wl

[nine01c]

B1 is grabbed near the division line. So, when you pass on the holding foul, and she misses the lay-up, the coach will chew YOU out for NOT calling that foul. In this particular play it sounds to me that you made the right decision to call it (if the holding actually stopped or slowed the dribbler).

When to pass on a foul comes with experience. You learn to read the big picture of each game, and become a better judge of "advantage/disadvantage." Watch as many varsity games as you can to see how veteran referees call their games. Sometimes uncalled fouls are missed, not purposely passed on, so keep that in mind. Asking experienced referees (like on this forum, or in your association) is a great way to learn. May be best to stay away from "helpful coaches" advising you.

[TimTaylor]

Originally posted by Camron Rust
Be slow on the whistle, if 1-2 steps after the contact it is clear the foul took away the opportunity, then call the foul. If the dribbler has a direct line to a layup and is good enough to play through the foul, you can pass on it.

I agree. Had a funny one last season - JV girls, similar situation, contact was minimal so I let it go & A1 makes an uncontested layup. On the way back up the floor, coach A wants to know why I didn't call the foul after the steal. My reply was, "minimal contact, no real disadvantage; which would you rather have, the foul or the basket". His reply - "Good point, forget I said anything".

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by chrs_schuster
My question is, early in JV girls game last night A1 steps into passing lane of B1 steals pass. While dribbling over half court she gets grabbed by B1. Possible breakaway. I blow my whistle call holding on B1. Coach of A1 says "good foul but I would have wanted the lay-up" So my question as a first year official is do I let the play go or do I stop the play and call foul. Just wondering what other refs would do? thanks chris

Chris:

When you assessed A1 with a holding foul you answered your own question. Call the obvious. If it was obvious that B1 was held by A1, there is no need to have a "slow" (sorry Camron) whistle in this case, when the foul occured at the division line. The only other question that needed to be answered was the foul a common or intentional?

MTD, Sr.

MTD, Sr.