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sm_bbcoach Mon Dec 06, 2004 04:24pm

Question:

As A lines up for a 1+1, a player line up in the spot next to the free throw shooter (illegal)

Is this a lane violation? If so, is it called before / after the shot?

I think it is called before the shot, and it negates the first shot.

What if this is a 2 shot foul? Will the lane vio. negate only the first shot or both?

Thanks

BBall_Junkie Mon Dec 06, 2004 04:30pm

I don't have my rulebook with me so I can't quote what the actual ruling is but I will give my practical answer. If a player lines up there, it is the officials fault. To me this is equivalent to making sure there are two defensive players in the first two spaces. However, in this case make him/her move to the correct spot. If the ball is administered already and I notice it, I will hit my whistle, state that I have made a mistake, move the player to a legal spot and re-administer the FT.

joseph2493 Mon Dec 06, 2004 04:30pm

Quote:

Originally posted by sm_bbcoach
Question:

As A lines up for a 1+1, a player line up in the spot next to the free throw shooter (illegal)

Is this a lane violation? If so, is it called before / after the shot?

I think it is called before the shot, and it negates the first shot.

What if this is a 2 shot foul? Will the lane vio. negate only the first shot or both?

Thanks

It depends if offensive/defense has caused the infraction.

With defense it is delayed till after the shot.

With the offense it is called immediately and cancels that free throw. If it is the first of two, the shooter will still get the oppurtunity at the second shot.


shont Mon Dec 06, 2004 04:34pm

First of all, I would hope the administering official would not let anyone line up in that space, which the rule book says is not a marked lane space.(8-1-4) If someone is not in a marked lane space they must be behing FT line extended and 3 pt. line. If it is a teammate of the free thrower I think it would be dead immediately, go other way if 1&1 shoot 2nd shot if multiple throws. If it is an opponent it is a delayed dead ball, if it goes count it if not shoot again. This is how I think it should be.

Shont

IREFU2 Mon Dec 06, 2004 04:52pm

I see this happen all the time, I just tell the player get out of there. Once they hear it a time or two, they stop lining up there. Preventive Officiating is the key!

icallfouls Mon Dec 06, 2004 06:18pm

Quote:

Originally posted by sm_bbcoach
Question:

As A lines up for a 1+1, a player line up in the spot next to the free throw shooter (illegal)

Is this a lane violation? If so, is it called before / after the shot?

I think it is called before the shot, and it negates the first shot.

What if this is a 2 shot foul? Will the lane vio. negate only the first shot or both?

Thanks

Let me preface the following by saying that I agree the official made a mistake here and it could have been prevented. My personal approach? I would look to remedy this situation through "common sense officiating" which is fundamental to the game.

However, it is the responsibility of the coach(es) to be sure that their players are familiar with all the rules. If memory serves, that is stated in the rule book. So the player should already know that the top position is not to be occupied.

As far as the ruling, if the defense has taken the position, this is a delayed whistle situation. If the attempt is missed another attempt will be awarded. If the offense has take the position, the attempt is killed immediately.

Nevadaref Wed Dec 08, 2004 08:48am

Case Book play 8.1.4 covers this.


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