Test answers and questions
 

I am new to officiating (a college student), and would like to have a copy of the test answers and questions. This will help me prepare for my youth jobs, and eventually start doing high school games.

thanks,

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Where do you live?

Join the state group and pay the fee. They will be happy to supply you with the rules books and test. The answers are available if you are so inclined. Just remember that the answers don't do you any good if you don't know the "why" that goes with them.

Whenever you have a test, you'll have cheaters. I'm not giving out the answers to cheat, but merely for people to check their own answers. They are to be used as a study tool. If you think that I've ruined officiating, then you've got some problems.

I hope all officials aren't like you.

Why don't you just shut the f*ck up, because I'm sick and tired of listening to you b*tch and moan about how you're against this.

If you're so against it then just don't read the thread, don't request the answers. Save valuable bandwidth for people who want to improve their officiating, not f*cking complain about insignificant bullsh!t.

Oh Yeah, One other thing,

I'm going to be doing another mailing either late tonight or early tomorrow. If you haven't yet sent me an e-mail containing you're address for me to respond to please do so, you can use the little e-mail icon at the bottom of this post.

due to the complexity of this thread, I will not be reading through it to look for e-mail addresses any more, so if you want the test, E-MAIL me.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Ref18

Whenever you have a test, you'll have cheaters. I'm not giving out the answers to cheat, but merely for people to check their own answers. They are to be used as a study tool. If you think that I've ruined officiating, then you've got some problems.

[/B][/QUOTE]I see, by the link to your home association that you provided in another thread, that YOUR exam date is <b>next</b> Monday, November 22nd. Good luck with your studying. Btw, if you are writing the IAABO refresher exam instead of the NFHS exam, another kindred soul has just provided the answers to that one today also. Just look for the IAABO test thread.

gordon,
Bill/Russ or Mike may have taught the class that used the Part 1 test as the basis for discussion. I have attended many of these and without fail it goes something like this:

Week 1) The first twenty five questions are assigned to the rookies. They are asked to answer them and return the following week for discussion.
Week 2) Bill/Rus or Mike will randomly select members and ask the question. He/she will give their answer and the class will either agree or disagree. All rulings are cited with page number and rule number.
Weeks 3-6) These same rookies knock off the remaining questions in the same manner. The funny thing is that they are actually due the week before the last week of training. So, they will not be provided all of the answers at our sessions, prior to the closing of the test!


That's not how I remember it. I can recall sitting in a class room with about 30 guys. Starting at one end of the room starting with question 1 etc. answering them and being given the correct answer. Each one of us in turn until the test was completed. Can't cheat on an open book test that you can do at home, work etc.

I see, by the link to your home association that you provided in another thread, that YOUR exam date is <b>next</b> Monday, November 22nd. Good luck with your studying. Btw, if you are writing the IAABO refresher exam instead of the NFHS exam, another kindred soul has just provided the answers to that one today also. Just look for the IAABO test thread. [/B][/QUOTE]

JR,

I know that I haven't written my exam yet, but a month ago, I came accross a copy. Sine then I've found a rule reference for every single question and came up with my answer from that. I'm only using these answers to check my answers. If I'm wrong, and I was on one, I went and found a different rule reference which better assessed the situation in the question.

I however, am not going to go into the exam with just the answers in my head. I've opened my book, researched the questions. I'm not cheating, I'm studying.

One other thing JR,

In my association the NFHS test is reserved only for those officials in their third year and below. This year I write my last Fed test, next year I go for my IAABO. Thank God I'm never gonna have to write that horrible test after monday.

gordon30307,

I've taught that class many times. Yur memory...from many moons ago...is foggy.

ref18,
If you know the answers ahead of time and can research the appropriate case or rule book scenario, YOU ARE STILL CHEATING. Having the answers ahead of time, when they are not available to everyone, is the difference. You can't justify your actions - the answers helped you learn the way to answer the question appropriately.

My Memory is not foggy. That is how it was done.

I know that I haven't written my exam yet, but a month ago, I came across a copy. Since then I've found a rule reference for every single question and came up with my answer from that. I'm only using these answers to check my answers. If I'm wrong, and I was on one, I went and found a different rule reference which better assessed the situation in the question.

I however, am not going to go into the exam with just the answers in my head. I've opened my book, researched the questions. I'm not cheating, I'm studying. [/B][/QUOTE]Ref 18, I'm glad to hear that. I also know that you are sincere in wanting to improve your rules knowledge. You can tell that from your activity in discussions on this web site, both here and on the football forum. I also sincerely hope that the other people requesting the answers show the same dedication that you do. Unfortunately, quite a few of them seemed to have joined just to receive the answers- and maybe they won't be heard from again here until next year's exam rolls around. That's unfortunate. What is also unfortunate is the perception that cheating could possibly now be present- ie.- WCB's posts. Somebody posting the answers on this site today to this year's IAABO refresher test is a good example of that. I know that there are associations out there that use this test as their main exam, and also haven't had their members write it yet. I'm sure that having the answers out in public before everybody has their exam written can't be making the IAABO people too happy either.

Now you know where I'm coming from. Note that I'm trying very hard to keep away from judging <b>anybody</b> also. I ain't God, and I have a lot of faith too in the integity inherent to sports officials.

Have a good year!

I already answered your other post before I read this one. Please see my reference to the IAABO test in there. The answers are now out for that one too.

Okay, maybe it's not the most ethical thing to do, but it helps me learn. I did the same thing last year, and you know what it helped me. If you ask me any question from last years test, I can give you the correct answer, because it stuck with me. That's what I believe is teh point of all this, getting it in your head, where you need it. I agree, just using the answers are wrong. But when you look through the book and just use the answers to check if your research is correct, I see nothing wrong with that.

My apologies to Rich for bringing him into this, but, Windbag, where were you when he was handing out the test. I didn't hear any objections to that. With the test I was able to come up with my own answers. All I used these ones for was verification and to see if I misunderstood any concepts. I don't get the exam back until Christmas, and I'll do a good deal of games from now till then and I need to make sure that my rulings are accurate. This is one way to ensure that.

It may not be ethical, but it helps improve my on-floor officiating and that is what counts. Anyone can memorize a rulebook, but few people can take it and apply it to a game situation along with game management, a very important part of officiating, but there's no book on it. Doing this makes me a better official and because of that I'll continue doing it.

Well that's interesting...kinda puts all his posts into perspective now, don't it.

I'm going to officiate games now, the main part of officiating, which I feel is more important than a stupid test. I'll be practising my mechanics, another important part of officiating, but no test to evaluate us. And I'll be making the calls. It's one thing to be able to call a game on paper, but a completely different thing to call a game on a court.

Later,

J

Well, that and as long as you realize that his <i>raison d'etre</i> in posting here is mainly to antagonize Rut.

Mmmmmmm....raisins....

I'm hungry!

But there's so many others here who do that already...tell him to go away, JR.

Go away, Windy.

Jurassic,

Mon frêre, you are mistaken about why this thread piqued my interest. Go back and look at my first response. It was not directed at anyone other than the cheaters. Rut took umbrage with a “baseball umpire” projecting his wisdom on his sacred domain. My argument was and remains with the person that began this debacle. Officiating and cheating are polar opposites. We frown on any authority figure caught in the web of deceit and greed. My contention is that if it is a meaningless test, why do you require the answers? Obviously, if he/she has the test and claims to be an official, he/she should have the requisite knowledge to explore those questions with integrity. Rut charged in and attempted to mount a defense of their actions. As we’ve seen, there is none, cheating is cheating.


P.S.: Yes, I’ve spoken in flowery prose in a cheap attempt to confuse and bewilder our little friend.

I must have missed a memo putting you in charge. I will go away when reason returns to this board.

Hey - why's this guy dragging Chuck into this mess???:)

PS: Reason will return to this board about 1 second after Windbag goes away...

1) We are very aware of your reasons for posting here, Gary. Your crusade against Rut is very apparent. Transparent, too.

2) RockyRoad is in charge of this board. He was voted into that position by his peers. It is a lifetime position also (unless he pisses us off. If he does that, then he's history too. Toast!).

And if Rocky says that you have to leave, well, buh-bye Windy.

Adios! Sayonara! Bon Nuit! Hasta la Vista! Git! Scat! Shoo, shoo!

Reason will <b>never</b> return to this board, if I have anything to do about it!

Gee, I'm not real sure, Chuck, but I think that <b>maybe</b> your ol' buddy, Rocky, mighta just dumped on ya.

Kina ironic that ol' Rock ain't really <b>that</b> much bigger than you also.
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please email the questions and answers. Thanks
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If this is cheating, have states create rules in writing that suggest it would be cheating to give out answers to other officials. If it is cheating on the internet, it is cheating when every single association in my state sets aside time to go over the test. What Gordon stated was the same practice that every single organization does and that I belong to now and use to belong to before I moved did. People take the answers and have not even looked over the test. That in no way bothers me because I have always consider what someone does on the court or field as a judgment of their ability. But if you feel playoff consideration is at issue (which it is not), or integrity is at issue, then the state needs to come up with rules in this technology age what is or is not acceptable. The state of Illinois lets us take the test online and gives us the answers immediately. If they did not want people to know what those are or distribute the answers, how about not letting us know what the answers are until they decide to post them?

Windy, running his mouth about cheating is like a Catholic trying to tell other Christian religions what moral are.

Peace

they say it's all POLITICS!
 

Anyone want to guess who "Windy" voted for US President?

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Pee Wee Herman ran for POTUS??

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Btw, do not mock Chuck, or he'll rip your....errrr...nuts out...

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I figured out that #1 at this point in time I must be the most popular member of this forum. #2, My actions have caused the most controversy (this week).

It feels good to be noticed. :D

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Btw, do not mock Chuck, or he'll rip your....errrr...nuts out...


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Yup, not a good idea to mess around with the Chuckster- fer sure:
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Yup, not a good idea to mess around with the Chuckster- fer sure:
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Do not test the Chuckster.

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HA! Ha! Everyone read this and weep!!! First new rule of the board: No more short jokes from anyone over the height of 5'8"!! From now on, only Chuck and I can make fun of each other for being short...

Rule #2: No more Mariners jokes (nuff said)

Rule #3: Windbag must clear all his posts thru my second-in-command, Jurassic Ref...if JR don't like em. they get canned...

Any comments or questions about the Board - I DON"T CARE!!! Keep em all to yourselves!

Whew, the power feels GREAT!!!

Excuse me?? Mr. Rockyroad suh? I got a question about the no question rule suh...

Could you please send the answers/questions to me??

[email protected]

Many thanks ref18

Okay. People tend to shrink with age, so I'll be able to make short jokes when I'm... let's see... 2 x 10 ... minus 5... take the square root of 53....

I hope I live to 174 because I've got a really really good short joke to tell then!

Whoops.

Buh-bye, Rocky.