True or false--
When the ball is bounced to the free thrower, it is at his or her disposal when released by the official.

My thinking is the ball has to be in the hands of the free thrower to be considered at their disposal so false would be the answer. But after reading 8-1 I'm not sure.

Thanks for the help.

From 8.1.1 RULING: ...the ball becomes live when it is caught by the free thrower.

Imagine if you will, a couple of not so far fetched situations. The administering official goes to bounce the ball to the thrower, but it squirts out of his hands and bounces slowly toward the thrower, taking 3-4 seconds to get there. Or, the official makes a less than ideal bounce pass to the thrower and the thrower fumbles the lame pass. It takes the thrower a couple of seconds to get the ball under control. Is it fair, in either case, to be counting? No. The ten second count can only logically begin when the thrower catches it (ignoring for now the possibility of the official placing the ball on the floor).

<Edit added here>
Also, from 4-4-7 A ball is at the disposal of a player when it is: b. caught by a player after it is bounced to him/her.

[Edited by Back In The Saddle on Oct 10th, 2004 at 11:30 PM]

Been taking lessons from Chuck?

Yes.
Every chance I get.

Yes.
Every chance I get. [/B][/QUOTE]Are they short lessons?

The ten second count can only logically begin when the thrower catches it (ignoring for now the possibility of the official placing the ball on the floor).

I think we all know you mean "five second" count.
(If we all know it, why did I post it).

The administering official on a FT can use the resumption-of-play procedure and CAN place the ball on the floor in the circle and will start a 10-second count- not a 5-second count- if the FTer isn't in the circle. NFHS rules 8-1-2 and 8-4.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Oct 11th, 2004 at 10:20 AM]

Are they short lessons? [/B][/QUOTE]

I don't get it...

I don't get it... [/B][/QUOTE]I've heard that.....

Are they short lessons? [/B][/QUOTE]
In the immortal words of Eric Cartman, "Screw you guys. I'm going home." :p

I've heard that..... [/B][/QUOTE]Heard what...?

Heard what...? [/B][/QUOTE]That!

In the immortal words of Eric Cartman, "Screw you guys. I'm going home." :p [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, me too!!

For a throw in, you would be correct. For a free-throw, which was the original question, it's a ten second count.

I don't get it... [/B][/QUOTE]

Chuck is...well...how shall we put it......SHORT! :)

But he's not so bad.

Chuck is...well...how shall we put it......SHORT! :)

But he's not so bad. [/B][/QUOTE]

Personal experience? :D

Question 25, does not say "live". Case book page 57, the answer should be "T"

:confused: The correct answer to #25 is false. It isn't at the FT shooter's disposal when released on the bounce by the official. Doesn't say anything about a "T".

Am I missing something here?

Chuck is...well...how shall we put it......SHORT! :)

But he's not so bad. [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, but so am I...that's why I didn't get it!

Page 57 in the case book, "On free throws, the word "disposal" is interpreted to mean that the official shall bounce the ball to the free thrower.

It's only at the free thrower's disposal if the free thrower refuses to accept the bounced ball, and the administrating official then has to place the ball on the floor at the FT line. It's not at the free thrower's disposal when the ball is bounced until the free thrower actually catches it or the above procedure is used. That's rule 4-4-7(b) and (c), and that's why Q25 is false.