Re: Help me understand
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mick

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Originally posted by Camron Rust Quote: Originally posted by mick Quote: The player went out voluntarily, so the first retouch shouldn't be that player or it will be illegal, I think. mick Voluntary or involuntary, it makes no difference. The only rules we have are that a player may not be in control of the ball while OOB (a violation otherwise) and a player may not leave the court for an unauthorized reason (a T). 7.1.1B Play <i>(Paraphrase)</i> A1 is offbalance, steps out, steps in, and gets the ball. Ruling: Legal. A1 <u>did not leave the court voluntarily</u>. Okay, fine. In the play posted above, the player jumped out of bounds (voluntary act, no body made him, and he didn't fall), then passed to himself. The ruling in A1, <b>implys</b> that if the player left the court <u>voluntarily</u>, then the play is illegal. mick

If you leave voluntarily *and it's done to "confuse the defense" or to gain an advantage* (and that part is just implied, not specifically mentioned), then it's a T. The player would never get a chance to reenter and touch the ball. If you decide it's not a T for leaving, then it's never a violation to be the first to touch the ball.

Re: Re: Help me understand
 

Bob,
Are you saying a player cannot leave the court voluntarily without intent to deceive,... that is, to Catch and Pass a ball?
Cuz I was saying: leave voluntarily *and it's <b>not</b> done to "confuse the defense" or to gain an advantage*
mick

Re: Re: Re: Help me understand
 

Phew! I've lost track of this thread -- I think we are saying the same thing:

If you leave
With intent to deceive
It's a T

If you leave
But do not deceive
It's not a V
For you to retrieve

QED

Re: Re: Re: Re: Help me understand
 

Thanks, Bob.
I'll change my thought.
I don't like that rule, as written, either
mick