Sorry

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Hartsy
Here's my take, for what it's worth. Surely there will be someone more qualified than me to better answer this.

Neither situation is a violation. The first one is close, though. The kicked ball violation is only when the kick is intentional. I don't see this in either case.

In case one, there was an attempt to block the pass with a kick, but the attempt failed, so unlike attempted murder, no violation.

Imagine If we had to call attempted fouls!

JH

Imagine if I stopped calling *attempted* fouls...