The Official Forum

The Official Forum (https://forum.officiating.com/)
-   Basketball (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/)
-   -   Tricks Coaches Teach (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/14229-tricks-coaches-teach.html)

Dan_ref Tue Jun 22, 2004 02:02pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
A couple of years ago, I read a story stating that a prominent player in the Australian Football League was given a lengthy suspension for using illegal tactics like these. The most aggregious was when he apparently gave an opponent a rectal exam in a scrum!! :eek:
I read about this. It was a match between the "Anal Intruders" and the "Rectum Wreckers". I don't know who won, and frankly, I don't care.

Going through your DVD collection again I see...

Mark Padgett Tue Jun 22, 2004 03:16pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
A couple of years ago, I read a story stating that a prominent player in the Australian Football League was given a lengthy suspension for using illegal tactics like these. The most aggregious was when he apparently gave an opponent a rectal exam in a scrum!! :eek:
I read about this. It was a match between the "Anal Intruders" and the "Rectum Wreckers". I don't know who won, and frankly, I don't care.

Going through your DVD collection again I see...

Yeah - and they're in 3-D!!!

ChuckElias Tue Jun 22, 2004 03:22pm

3-D is ok, as long as you don't have that "Smellivision" or whatever John Waters used for his weird movies. :eek:

TravelinMan Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:00pm

Randy -

Bottom line. Watch out for the "step on sneaker" trick. I don't think you have to look for the scrotum assault.

Hawks Coach Thu Jun 24, 2004 06:13pm

I had one of my players tell me her MS coach taught her to step on the sneaker of the person in the lane box next to her on FTs. I told her she would sit if that's how she needed to get an adavantage on rebounding. And i told her to re-learn how to block out.

But moving into the HS ranks of AAU, I see a lot more shirt grabbing, off-ball forearms, body shots, etc. Especially stting under the basket scouting other teams. Never underestimate the creativity of older players to try to get an advantage, whether coached to do it or doing it on their own volition. They want to win and will do what they can get away with doing.

mick Thu Jun 24, 2004 06:21pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawks Coach
Never underestimate the creativity of older players to try to get an advantage, whether coached to do it or doing it on their own volition. <U> They want to win and will do what they can get away with doing.</U>
Hawks Coach,
I have told players, when they ask if something is legal or not, that they can go illegal as long as it's free, but they should be ready to adjust when it's being called.
mick


Hawks Coach Thu Jun 24, 2004 06:41pm

I do tell my players to adjust to how a game is being played and called, but am not a fan of using illegal tactics to gain an advantage. You can win just by playing well, if you spend your time teaching or learning how to play well. It sounds a little optimistic, but I have watched it work through the years, and you can win the tightly called games if you are solid and another team likes to cut corners.

It's hard to win if you only know one way to play and they won't let you play that way that day.

mick Thu Jun 24, 2004 07:19pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawks Coach
I do tell my players to adjust to how a game is being played and called, but am not a fan of using illegal tactics to gain an advantage. You can win just by playing well, if you spend your time teaching or learning how to play well. It sounds a little optimistic, but I have watched it work through the years, and you can win the tightly called games if you are solid and another team likes to cut corners.

It's hard to win if you only know one way to play and they won't let you play that way that day.

That's a fact!
(<I>eg, Pistons-Lakers</I> :) )

Hawks Coach Fri Jun 25, 2004 09:49am

My Pistons Lakers analysis is a bit different. I saw one team that came to compete and competed. I saw another team that thought the NBA Championship would be a coronation rather than a competition.

The Lakers never were mentally or physically prepared to fight for a ring. They quit in every game, because as a team, they didn't have that deep down commitment to do whatever it takes to win. Part of that is style of play, and part of that is will. The team with the stronger will clearly won.

mick Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:01am

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawks Coach
My Pistons Lakers analysis is a bit different. I saw one team that came to compete and competed. I saw another team that thought the NBA Championship would be a coronation rather than a competition.

The Lakers never were mentally or physically prepared to fight for a ring. They quit in every game, because as a team, they didn't have that deep down commitment to do whatever it takes to win. Part of that is style of play, and part of that is will. The team with the stronger will clearly won.

And here I thought it was all about conditioning, defense and playing the same way they played all year, instead of attempting to play a brand new reactive style. :)
mick

Hawks Coach Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:15am

I would agree that the Lakers mailed it in all year and got away with it, didn't in the finals!

Jurassic Referee Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:25am

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawks Coach
My Pistons Lakers analysis is a bit different. I saw one team that came to compete and competed. I saw another team that thought the NBA Championship would be a coronation rather than a competition.

The Lakers never were mentally or physically prepared to fight for a ring. They quit in every game, because as a team, they didn't have that deep down commitment to do whatever it takes to win. Part of that is style of play, and part of that is will. The team with the stronger will clearly won.

Might be even simpler to say than that. Just say that the "team" won. And deservedly so.

Nevadaref Sat Jun 26, 2004 05:32am

Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by Hawks Coach
I do tell my players to adjust to how a game is being played and called, but am not a fan of using illegal tactics to gain an advantage. You can win just by playing well, if you spend your time teaching or learning how to play well. It sounds a little optimistic, but I have watched it work through the years, and you can win the tightly called games if you are solid and another team likes to cut corners.

It's hard to win if you only know one way to play and they won't let you play that way that day.

That's a fact!
(<I>eg, Pistons-Lakers</I> :) )

Duke v. UConn may be more appropriate here.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:36am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1