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Jimgolf Tue Jun 15, 2004 08:41am

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Originally posted by TravelinMan
I saw one of their frosh play a couple of years ago in Greensboro. JamesOn Curry. I believe he averaged close to 50 ppg his Junior year in HS.

I may be off on the events of 1957, but JamesOn Curry will not be playing with North Carolina this year, at least. His offer was rescinded after a guilty plea to a felony marijuana possession and sale charge and he has signed with Oklahoma State.

By the way, I should have known it was NC and not Kansas, since the Heels beat my MSU Spartans in a triple overtime semi-final before winning the championship against Kansas in another triple overtime game the next day. But the Offensive Goaltending rule was for Chamberlain, not Lennie Rosenbluth. Incidently, 1956-57 was also the year the NCAA widened the lane to 12 feet.

[Edited by Jimgolf on Jun 15th, 2004 at 09:51 AM]

rainmaker Tue Jun 15, 2004 09:10am

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
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Originally posted by rockyroad
Why give the offense the right to do something we don't let the defense do?
If you're looking for equity between how the rules treat the offense and the defense, look no further than the NF rule on technical fouls.

If called on the offense, they lose two shots and possession of the ball. If called on the defense, they lose two shots.

As the immortal Dave once said, "Fair? Fair? This is basketball. You want fair, call Judge Judy".

Sheez, Mark, thread that had veered off-topic into some perfectly good insult and childish banter, and you have to bring it back to the subject? You're no fun anymore...

rockyroad Tue Jun 15, 2004 09:52am

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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
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Originally posted by rockyroad
Why give the offense the right to do something we don't let the defense do?
If you're looking for equity between how the rules treat the offense and the defense, look no further than the NF rule on technical fouls.

If called on the offense, they lose two shots and possession of the ball. If called on the defense, they lose two shots.

As the immortal Dave once said, "Fair? Fair? This is basketball. You want fair, call Judge Judy".

Sheez, Mark, thread that had veered off-topic into some perfectly good insult and childish banter, and you have to bring it back to the subject? You're no fun anymore...

See what retirement will do to you??? Turns you all serious and cranky!!!

Dan_ref Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:24am

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Originally posted by rockyroad
Yep...one small step above Yankees fans on the evolutionary scale!! :)
Having spent my time in the cheap sets at the stadium I can't argue with you here Rocky.

BktBallRef Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:20pm

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Originally posted by Jimgolf
I may be off on the events of 1957, but JamesOn Curry will not be playing with North Carolina this year, at least. His offer was rescinded after a guilty plea to a felony marijuana possession and sale charge and he has signed with Oklahoma State.
That's correct. The all-time leading scorer in NCHSAA history is a drug dealer. Busted during his senior year, didn't even get to finish the season. :(

Roy Williams rescinded the scholarship offer. But you knew somebody would offer him a scholarship. Just had to wait to see which coach is more interested in winning than character, and integrity. It doesn't surprise me that Eddie Sutton stepped up.

rockyroad Tue Jun 15, 2004 01:34pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by rockyroad
Yep...one small step above Yankees fans on the evolutionary scale!! :)
Having spent my time in the cheap sets at the stadium I can't argue with you here Rocky.

Just had my dad's 80th party last weekend - family flew in from all over...my nephew flew in from Conn. - big BoSox fan...told me how he went to NY to see one of the Yankees vs. Sox playoff games last fall, dressed in his finest Sox regalia...had to have police escort him out in the 6th inning because the NY fans were pelting him with whatever was close to hand...officials offered him free tickets to a game this season as a token of their regret - he just looked at them and asked if they were stupid or what?? Of course - it weren't too smart of him to go there like that anyway, were it???

Dan_ref Tue Jun 15, 2004 01:41pm

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Originally posted by rockyroad
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by rockyroad
Yep...one small step above Yankees fans on the evolutionary scale!! :)
Having spent my time in the cheap sets at the stadium I can't argue with you here Rocky.

Just had my dad's 80th party last weekend - family flew in from all over...my nephew flew in from Conn. - big BoSox fan...told me how he went to NY to see one of the Yankees vs. Sox playoff games last fall, dressed in his finest Sox regalia...had to have police escort him out in the 6th inning because the NY fans were pelting him with whatever was close to hand...officials offered him free tickets to a game this season as a token of their regret - he just looked at them and asked if they were stupid or what?? Of course - it weren't too smart of him to go there like that anyway, were it???

He should have used a shark cage.

rockyroad Tue Jun 15, 2004 02:05pm

LOL...I told him next time go in his Patriots outfit - that way he'd at least have a helmet on!!!

Jurassic Referee Tue Jun 15, 2004 02:25pm

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Originally posted by rockyroad
LOL...I told him next time go in his Patriots outfit - that way he'd at least have a helmet on!!!
My youngest son, Robbie, and a coupla of his buddies just returned from their annual pilgrimage to Yankee Stadium last weekend. They sat out in the right field bleachers for all 3 games. They didn't have any problems at all. Never do. Course it probably helps that they were all wearing Yankee t-shirts and hats.

Dan, he brought me back a retro #7 shirt. He's now officially back in the will.

ChuckElias Tue Jun 15, 2004 02:33pm

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Originally posted by rockyroad
he went to NY to see one of the Yankees vs. Sox playoff games last fall, dressed in his finest Sox regalia...had to have police escort him out in the 6th inning because the NY fans were pelting him with whatever was close to hand...
I'll be at the Stadium on September 18 for a Sox/Yanks game. I'm having a hard time deciding what my attire will be. I always buy a home team cap, so I'll have a Yanks hat on, and maybe I'll wear a Sox t-shirt, but I'm not sure if I'm prepared to take my life in my hands.

TravelinMan Tue Jun 15, 2004 07:17pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by rockyroad
he went to NY to see one of the Yankees vs. Sox playoff games last fall, dressed in his finest Sox regalia...had to have police escort him out in the 6th inning because the NY fans were pelting him with whatever was close to hand...
I'll be at the Stadium on September 18 for a Sox/Yanks game. I'm having a hard time deciding what my attire will be. I always buy a home team cap, so I'll have a Yanks hat on, and maybe I'll wear a Sox t-shirt, but I'm not sure if I'm prepared to take my life in my hands.

Whoa, guys! I wouldn't rave about the treatment of Yankee fans at Fenway. I ran across plenty of jerks when I'd catch a game at Fenway during my grad student years. You are going to find jerks rooting for any team, especially where there is a big rivalry.

TravelinMan Tue Jun 15, 2004 07:23pm

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Originally posted by Jimgolf
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Originally posted by TravelinMan
I saw one of their frosh play a couple of years ago in Greensboro. JamesOn Curry. I believe he averaged close to 50 ppg his Junior year in HS.

I may be off on the events of 1957, but JamesOn Curry will not be playing with North Carolina this year, at least. His offer was rescinded after a guilty plea to a felony marijuana possession and sale charge and he has signed with Oklahoma State.

By the way, I should have known it was NC and not Kansas, since the Heels beat my MSU Spartans in a triple overtime semi-final before winning the championship against Kansas in another triple overtime game the next day. But the Offensive Goaltending rule was for Chamberlain, not Lennie Rosenbluth. Incidently, 1956-57 was also the year the NCAA widened the lane to 12 feet.

[Edited by Jimgolf on Jun 15th, 2004 at 09:51 AM]

Thought I heard something on the radio like that about Curry. Too bad for NC. But, they don't need him to win another championship. Obviopusly, NC thought so too. Better to stay clear of troublesome players....Providence learned about that with Marvin Barnes in the 70's. Zero tolerance is the best policy.


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