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Still working on that one, Stan!! I must say, I had to do a lot of it at the beginning of this season. Some of the men's officials were starting the 'walk and talk' and basically mumbled fouls in my direction. Maybe the women's NCAA staff needs to give these guys some pointers. |
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I originally didn't believe this was proper, but after I had some time to think about this for a while, I have concluded that this is the correct stance to take. To explain why I have two reasons: 1) I had a game in which a player was T'd by my partner in the 1Q for complaining about his calls. In the 2Q this player broke the throw-in plane and hit the ball while it was still in the thrower's hands. I gave him his second T of the game. This player was DQ'd and had to sit out the following game. While some may feel that this is harsh, I look at it from the other side. This kid is actually getting a better lesson on why he should not be yapping at the officials. If he hadn't received that first T for his mouth, he wouldn't be sitting at all. 2) Lastly, I'll state that the reason interfering with the throw-in is a T is because it is considered unsporting behavior. The game is supposed to be a sporting contest and certain acts in the game are clearly not in the spirit of fair play. The throw-in example is one, and the same is true of changing your jersey and not informing the officials/scorer or a pre-game dunk (showing off or intimidating the other team). In fact, I would have to check, but I think that all player technicals could well be considered unsporting behavior. Therefore, those who say that the kid should not be suspended for a game would have to answer this point convincingly before I would join their ranks again. |
Nevada, your point #1 is dealt with by the fact that the player is sitting down for the rest of the game following the 2nd T. If he hadn't popped off early in the game, he'd still be playing at the end. So, he's already got an extra punishment.
Your first point is one of opinion, and I'm not prepared to argue either way. Personally, I think there is a line between game behavior that results in Ts (slapping the ball while still OOB on a throw-in or even stepping OOB on purpose to avoid a screen) and unsportsmanlike behavior (like popping off to a ref and some dead ball contact). Isn't a player entering unbeckoned a player T as well? Personally, I like that my state will differentiate here. But, it's not my call, so I'll go with whatever they decide. Adam |
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I believe there are effectively two classes of technical fouls: behavior related fouls and tangential fouls (illegal number/jersey, etc.) I can't see pinning a T that the kid has no control over on them individually when considering suspensions. |
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I think it is a huge stretch to say that the reaching through the plane T is for unsportsmanlike behavior. It exists to prevent an unsportsmanlike delay in the agme by the defense, but it is not in and of itself unsporting. It is an act that occurs in an instant as part of playing the game. Dissension, taunting, talking trash, profanity - diffferent type of action altogether. And yes, you could have a player learn something from the first T by suspending for the second T. But then again, you could have a player learn from the first T by suspending for the first T, if that was what the rule was intended to do. So no, I don't think all Ts are unsporting, I don't think all Ts should result in a suspension. I hope that most states distinguish between types of Ts. |
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