Legal guarding position

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.


Why? I deliberately qualified my play by saying a player legally "extended" his "cylinder" only if he adheres to screening & guarding principles - time & distance. You have merely extended those same guidelines by allowing a player to extend his arms/legs in an arbitrary fashion.

You'll need to do quite a bit better than this lame response to justify your claim that B1 is responsible for illegal contact in the original play.

In the original play A1 has no claim to a "vertical" position simply because he is not, in any manner, "vertical".

[Edited by Dan_ref on Apr 26th, 2004 at 11:58 PM]

I have not "merely" extended anything. I agreed with you regarding the two plays that you described, in fact there are casebook plays that support your position on those plays. In your two plays, A1 is deliberately extended his/her leg or arms out to hinder an opponent from moving Point A to Point B.

Nothing in the original play being discussed gives the impression that A1 deliverately extended his pivot foot to meet the descriptions of your two plays. A1 is standing with his/her weight unevenly distributed between his/her two feet and there is nothing in A1's situation that causes her to forfeit his/her cylinder of verticality.

But I think that there is one thing that everybody that has participated in this thread will agree and that this is the type of play that one has to see to be able to make the call.


Dan:

On a personal note I am offended that you would describe my honest attempt to explain my reasoning for my interpretation as lame. Personal attacks have no place in this forum and I thought that you were above such nonsense.

MTD, Sr. [/B][/QUOTE]

Please Mark, we're all big boys & girls here. I have little tolerance these days for adults whining about being personally offended in the course of normal disourse.

If my use of the word lame in regards to your lame defense offends you then so be it.

As for "deliberate" movement: can you show us where in the rules a foul needs to be judged "deliberate" in order to be judged a common foul?

And I'm still waiting for you to define this vertical cylinder thing.