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Back In The Saddle Fri Apr 23, 2004 02:07pm

As far as whose call it is, as I understand it--

in 2-whistle, a drive from T's area to L's area belongs to the L.

in 3-whistle, a drive from C's or T's area to L's area belongs to the C or T.

twref Fri Apr 23, 2004 03:17pm

LGP before the offensive player "left the floor"? Just for clarification it's my belief that, such as on a layup, a shot attempts starts once the dribble has been picked up. In this case if the defender aquires LGP after the dribble has been picked up but before the player is airborn it should be a block.

blindzebra Fri Apr 23, 2004 03:24pm

Quote:

Originally posted by twref
LGP before the offensive player "left the floor"? Just for clarification it's my belief that, such as on a layup, a shot attempts starts once the dribble has been picked up. In this case if the defender aquires LGP after the dribble has been picked up but before the player is airborn it should be a block.
LGP must be made before the player leaves the floor, not starts their shot.

Adam Fri Apr 23, 2004 03:40pm

Quote:

Originally posted by twref
LGP before the offensive player "left the floor"? Just for clarification it's my belief that, such as on a layup, a shot attempts starts once the dribble has been picked up. In this case if the defender aquires LGP after the dribble has been picked up but before the player is airborn it should be a block.
Sure, you could say the shot attempt starts then, so if the shooter is fouled right after he picks up his dribble on a layup (before he is airborn), then you have a shooting foul. However, if the defender gets LGP prior to the shooter actually getting airborn, the shooter hasn't been fouled, the defender has. PC foul, no shot. It is the shooter's responsibility to jump to (and through) unoccupied space. By your definition, a shooter could effectively aim for a defender and plow him over; drawing a defensive foul.

Likewise, if the airborn player hasn't started his shot yet when he gets fouled, you should technically have a common foul rather than a shooting foul.

Two different definitions that often happen concurrently, but not by definition.

Eric Huechteman Fri Apr 23, 2004 06:52pm

Re: Re: Charging
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
But even with LGP, the defender may not move into the path of an airborne shooter. I'm sure you already knew that, but I wanted to make it clearer.
True. It's difficult to put everything into one post, isn't it? lol Of course this is for one very important reason: If a player, who has established LGP, could run under an airborne shooter, many offensive players would get hurt AND have a foul called on them. That would be just a little bit harsh.


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