Yeah! Duke does it again!!

[tomegun]

My one wish has come true for the tournament. Best talent, a zillion final fours and plenty of chokes! The best talent and supposedly the best coach......................I think not.

[Nevadaref]

I thought Duke had it. I have to call this a choke.

Duke's points down the stretch:
0.0 Duhon makes meaningless 3pt with no time remaining.
3:28 Duhon makes 2 FTs.
4:44 Ewing made 3pt shot.

If not for the last prayer, that would be 1 basket and 2 FT in the last 5 minutes. Not the way to win a championship.

[revref]

I'm a big ACC fan and was hoping for an ACC final. Bizarre finish - I don't understand why Duhon wasn't "taking control" of the game for Duke. No baskets in the last 4 minutes; up 9 with 3:19. Two 3 point attempts by Deng that weren't close(what was he thinking?) and an 18' jumper that didn't go by Ewing. If they might have played better those last 4 minutes, someone might have posted some comments about the iffy "no call" when Reddick drove to the hoop and got hacked. No one to blame but themselves. Go TECH! Go ACC!

[WinterWillie]

Originally posted by revref
I'm a big ACC fan and was hoping for an ACC final. Bizarre finish - I don't understand why Duhon wasn't "taking control" of the game for Duke. No baskets in the last 4 minutes; up 9 with 3:19. Two 3 point attempts by Deng that weren't close(what was he thinking?) and an 18' jumper that didn't go by Ewing. If they might have played better those last 4 minutes, someone might have posted some comments about the iffy "no call" when Reddick drove to the hoop and got hacked. No one to blame but themselves. Go TECH! Go ACC!

The Big East Rules!!!!

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Nevadaref
I thought Duke had it. I have to call this a choke.

Duke's points down the stretch:
0.0 Duhon makes meaningless 3pt with no time remaining.

I agree it was Duke's to lose. But I still thought that last shot was amazing. Why didn't they have that oompa-loompa a few seconds earlier?!?

[Nevadaref]

Originally posted by Nevadaref

0.0 Duhon makes meaningless 3pt with no time remaining.

I should clarify. The shot was meaningless as far as determining the winner of the game, but a lot of $ changed hands out here when it went in!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by revref
If they might have played better those last 4 minutes, someone might have posted some comments about the iffy "no call" when Reddick drove to the hoop and got hacked.

Someone did. You.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by revref
If they might have played better those last 4 minutes, someone might have posted some comments about the iffy "no call" when Reddick drove to the hoop and got hacked.

I went back and watched this again on tape. Over and over. In the footage that the network showed for the re-play, Reddick was completely blocked from view just when the UConn player swung his arm and the ball came loose. But if one applies principles we've discussed in the past on this board, of analyzing the path of the ball to judge what probably happened, I'd say it was a clean "all-ball" swipe. The ball goes almost completely straight down, and the player also moved almost straight down, and parallel to the floor, most likely from trying to reach his hands toward the ball. The most the UConn player could have hit was one arm, but REddick's arms both remained exactily the same distance from the floor.

I'm not saying these kinds of deductions are how the ref made his decision -- he was in great position, unlike the cameraman. Looked like a good no-call to me.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by rainmaker
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I'm not saying these kinds of deductions are how the ref made his decision -- he was in great position, unlike the cameraman. Looked like a good no-call to me.

[/B][/QUOTE]Excellent analysis, Juulie. I nominate you to operate the taser on the announcers. Unfortunately, you're an official, so the fanboys would never accept your analysis either.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

I'm not saying these kinds of deductions are how the ref made his decision -- he was in great position, unlike the cameraman. Looked like a good no-call to me.

[/B]

Excellent analysis, Juulie. I nominate you to operate the taser on the announcers. Unfortunately, you're an official, so the fanboys would never accept your analysis either. [/B][/QUOTE] Yea, and I definitely don't have the sex-appeal that Dales-Schumann seems to exude, so I wouldn't win any fanboys (or fanmoms) over that way. Also, although I'd LOVE to show up Billy Packer, I'm not sure I could actually inflict the kind of suffering a taser would involve.

I've been wondering about tutoring Billy Crystal in the rules details, and then having him do little outtakes here and there in a game. His sense of humor, and his wide appeal with the public would give him a credibility that I'm not sure anyone else could muster. Billy Crystal vs Billy Packer. Now THAT would be worth listening to!

[Nevadaref]

Originally posted by Nevadaref

I should clarify. The shot was meaningless as far as determining the winner of the game, but a lot of $ changed hands out here when it went in!

Anyone see the little blip that ESPN did tonight on this shot? They stated that it probably made anywhere between $30M and $100M go from those who bet on UConn to those whose money was on Duke, since the line was UConn by 2.

[mightyvol]

THANK GOD FOR CHRIS DUHON!! THAT ALL I NEED TO SAY.

ONE HAPPY GUY HERE!

MIGHTYVOL

[Nevadaref]

An ESPN article on the meaningless $ shot.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/sport...ory?id=1775505

[ace]

Hey Julie... What are you talking about...Billy Crystal used to referee in the NBA





[Edited by ace on Apr 5th, 2004 at 05:26 PM]

[Hawks Coach]

Duke is the only 1 seed to make the final 4. The line in their game was U-Conn by 2. They lose by 1. The conclusion is they choked?! Interesting.