FIBA travelling-and an ejection story

[Camron Rust]

Originally posted by Isaak
Well I am glad English is still known on this forum

I apologise if correct spellings and loose slang was too much for some

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Not to worry. I don't really care, just having a little fun since things have slowed down a little.

[oc]

Originally posted by Oz Referee
Hey guys.

The way I was taught it was this - imagine the player that falls over has instead jumped and is in the air, if the player's feet touch the ground (ie when trying to stand up) then they have taken the equivalent to a step, therefore it's a travel.

Hi, been waiting for you to answer this one, being one of the only FIBA guys on this board. Still not getting it. How can you suppose a player is in the air while lying on the floor? How can a player fall down without changing their pivot foot to a pivot butt/knee/side? Is this one of those things that just is?

[Malcolm Tucker]

Guys
I am a FIBA official doing mainly education these days.

You have to get back to the philosophy of the game and realise that rules are there so the game is played fairly and no one gains an unfair advantage and of course to make the game exciting.

Now the falling down applies mostly at a time when the player is receiving the ball and is off balance and falls to the ground. This gives no advantage but certainly a great disadvantage. Now if the player rolls or slides then they are causing the opposition a disadvantage in attempting to secure the ball. Otherwise the interpretation appears to be the same as yours.

A player can start a dribble whilst on the floor and then stand up.

[Chin Ref]

Nice meeting you, Malcolm. From now on, I can get FIBA education, how nice!

Originally posted by Malcolm Tucker
Guys
I am a FIBA official doing mainly education these days.

You have to get back to the philosophy of the game and realise that rules are there so the game is played fairly and no one gains an unfair advantage and of course to make the game exciting.

Now the falling down applies mostly at a time when the player is receiving the ball and is off balance and falls to the ground. This gives no advantage but certainly a great disadvantage. Now if the player rolls or slides then they are causing the opposition a disadvantage in attempting to secure the ball. Otherwise the interpretation appears to be the same as yours.

A player can start a dribble whilst on the floor and then stand up.

[oc]

Originally posted by Malcolm Tucker
Guys
I am a FIBA official doing mainly education these days.

You have to get back to the philosophy of the game and realise that rules are there so the game is played fairly and no one gains an unfair advantage and of course to make the game exciting.

Now the falling down applies mostly at a time when the player is receiving the ball and is off balance and falls to the ground. This gives no advantage but certainly a great disadvantage. Now if the player rolls or slides then they are causing the opposition a disadvantage in attempting to secure the ball. Otherwise the interpretation appears to be the same as yours.

A player can start a dribble whilst on the floor and then stand up.

I'll buy that. Thanks.

[Isaak]

Same interpretation as me - but he didn't use the word ping

[Bobby]

Probably ask Hank Nichols if you could!