The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 22, 2004, 12:02pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 88
State boys HS playoff game. Team A scores on a fast break. After ball is through the basket while team B is still coming down the court a player from team A grabs ball and throws it to the ref who is standing on the endline. The ref blew his whistle and called a delay of game warning. What do you think?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 22, 2004, 12:08pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,856
Quote:
Originally posted by Red Neck Ref
State boys HS playoff game. Team A scores on a fast break. After ball is through the basket while team B is still coming down the court a player from team A grabs ball and throws it to the ref who is standing on the endline. The ref blew his whistle and called a delay of game warning. What do you think?
I think this is being over officious.
__________________
Dan Ivey
Tri-City Sports Officials Asso. (TCSOA)
Member since 1989
Richland, WA
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 22, 2004, 12:11pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 111
I have always been told (and it may not be right) but there is the letter of the rule and spirit of the rule. I do my best to use preventative officiating. This may have been one of those times where i went by the spirit of the rule....no delay!

__________________
1-2-3 points I gotta get across, 1)Don't 2)Make me 3)Go off!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 22, 2004, 12:26pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 2,217
Ridiculous

If it happened exactly as you described. If anything, it may have speeded things up if B wasn't there to get the ball, because the ball could go anywhere. so rather than delaying the game, A may have made it better. And stopping play to give the warning was the only delay.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 22, 2004, 01:01pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 50
I know some coaches instruct their players to touch the ball to delay the inbounds and allow them to set up the press. This is a delay. Using spirit of the game, I mention this to coach on the next time-out that this will not be tolerated and alert my partner. I do not consider this the first warning as the scorers are not aware. If it happens again, then I proceed with the first official warning and go from there.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 22, 2004, 01:12pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 9,466
Send a message via AIM to rainmaker
Quote:
Originally posted by rafking
I know some coaches instruct their players to touch the ball to delay the inbounds and allow them to set up the press. This is a delay. Using spirit of the game, I mention this to coach on the next time-out that this will not be tolerated and alert my partner. I do not consider this the first warning as the scorers are not aware. If it happens again, then I proceed with the first official warning and go from there.
Doesn't sound like this was the case in this sitch. It sounds a little overdone to me, but perhaps there was some background that we don't know about.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 22, 2004, 03:30pm
certified Hot Mom tester
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: only in my own mind, such as it is
Posts: 12,918
Post

The mere fact that A1 touched the ball does not earn a warning. A1 would have to prevent team B from promptly having the ball at their disposal for the subsequent inbound pass. If that, in the official's opinion, is what happened (inadvertant or not), then give the warning. I have had this happen where the player says "But I was just giving the ball to the ref". Players must learn the official does not handle the ball following a made basket.
__________________
Yom HaShoah
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Wed Mar 24, 2004, 02:02am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 561
Send a message via AIM to BoomerSooner
It would depend on a couple of things for me to make the call. First of all the position of B has alot to do with it. If they are at half court still running down I'll probably be more lenient as far as applying my next two considerations, which are: where was the ball at when B picked it up and where was it going. If the ball rolled over to the bleachers and was picked up and tossed to me, then no call. Also if A1 had accidently kicked it and it was out towards the 3pt line and still going, I would (and B as well) appreciate him tossing to me or at least toward team B or the endline. Now if the ball is simple bouncing or even barely rolling directly under the basket or next to the endline, A1 needs to leave the ball as is especially if B is anywhere close to the ball. Another important consideration is whether or not A is pressing. I'm not going to be the ref Nazi or anything, but if this is going on consistently with a press in place and is what is allowing A to set it up, that's what warnings are for.
__________________
My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:47pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1