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JLC Thu Feb 26, 2004 02:33pm

Check out the picture of Sebastian Telfair at the link below (2nd picture down). When questions come up about the hand position on the ball, and whether it is a carry or not, this would be a good picture to show as an example.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...sider/?cnn=yes

footlocker Thu Feb 26, 2004 02:53pm

Carry.

http://i.cnn.net/si/2004/writers/ste...telfair_si.jpg

Camron Rust Thu Feb 26, 2004 03:00pm

Of course, we're making the very likely assumption (for this photo) that this is NOT the start of a dribble.

Rich Thu Feb 26, 2004 03:03pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Camron Rust
Of course, we're making the very likely assumption (for this photo) that this is NOT the start of a dribble.
What's funny is that I personally DON'T think this is, solely based on the picture. The hand isn't directly under the ball and the ball isn't resting in the hand.

RecRef Thu Feb 26, 2004 03:04pm

Quote:

Originally posted by footlocker
Carry.

http://i.cnn.net/si/2004/writers/ste...telfair_si.jpg
"referee the defense"

Oh bull! Unless the defender put his arm through the small loop made by TelfairÂ’s arm you have a PC call here just as easy as you have a carry or whatever you think you have on the defender.

footlocker Thu Feb 26, 2004 03:21pm

Mainly,I wanted to see if I could post the picture.

I'm trying to think of a situation where I could see that and not call it a carry. Nothing comes to mind. But, I'm not on the floor and you never know...

Hawks Coach Thu Feb 26, 2004 03:34pm

Maybe you could be too busy calling the handcheck, since you are refereeing the defense :)

footlocker Thu Feb 26, 2004 03:42pm

Actually with me, your right Hawks Coach. That is more likely what I'd call here.

But as far as the picture of a ball at rest in a hand with the direction the player is moving, looks like a carry.

rainmaker Thu Feb 26, 2004 03:53pm

Without the last ten or the next ten frames, it's really hard to tell what's going on. There are three very obvious possibilities, carry, handcheck, and PC, depending on what comes before and after this little snap. There could also be a hold on the dribbler, if his right hand is in the process of grasping the defender's hand. And if this is the beginning of a dribble, and the left foot is the pivot, there could easily be a travel, unless he turns that ball over in a hurry. The defender probably doesn't have LGP, so he could be headed toward a block. This is a great action photograph, but it doesn't clarify much!

Dan_ref Thu Feb 26, 2004 04:06pm

Quote:

Originally posted by footlocker
Mainly,I wanted to see if I could post the picture.

I'm trying to think of a situation where I could see that and not call it a carry. Nothing comes to mind. But, I'm not on the floor and you never know...

Hmmm...maybe if he was about to pass the ball?

:)

Camron Rust Thu Feb 26, 2004 04:25pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:

Originally posted by footlocker
Mainly,I wanted to see if I could post the picture.

I'm trying to think of a situation where I could see that and not call it a carry. Nothing comes to mind. But, I'm not on the floor and you never know...

Hmmm...maybe if he was about to pass the ball?

:)

Exactly...carry only occurs if he dribbles again, otherwise, it's just the end of a dribble.


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