Well, ok, but let's say - just for the sake of argument - that we maybe had a third official on the court, and let's just say that it was someone from this board - ok, we'll say it was me, and I was in the C slot, and when the shot went up, Josh had the primary on the shot, and the T called the off-ball foul on A-2, but I was too busy eating the rest of my Subway sandwich that I couldn't finish in the locker room at halftime (Oh wait, this was in the SECOND half, not the first, right Josh? Cause that's important to know also) and so I completely missed the play when that piece of lettuce with the mustard dropped on the floor - and would we stop the game to clean that up? - and so when Josh and the T came to me - hey "Josh and the T" would make a good name for a Death Metal band - and I couldn't give them any information (mainly because my mouth was too full of ham and cheese) well, how would you handle that one, Mr. Smarty-pants Jurassic Ref who answered the original question only moments after it was posted??? Hmmm??? Well??? How many brown-pops now???

Forget your lithium again this morning, Rock?

Ha! I did it!! I finally stumped JR with a situation he couldn't answer!!! I win!!! How many brown-pops, man??? How many??? :)

Beam me up, Scotty! :D

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okay. thanks JR for your support. i didnt really realize that things would get out of hand. im sick of seeing all the "what ifs" from CERTAIN PEOPLE, AND FROM MANY OTHERS WHO MAKE A COMPLETE MOCKERY OF WHAT OFFICIALFORUM.COM IS ALL ABOUT,SOMETIMES, I JUST DONT KNOW...
i thought i could post a question/ senario and get an honest response, without people totally misinterpreting the real and original post. I really didnt think i had to tell exactly what was going through my mind as to what happened if traffic would be bad on the way home, and what i would be doing tomarrow. to be completely honest, i saw the foul, and my partner called the foul, thats how i know that the contact occurred YEARS after the shot was released. heres some of the wild responses i now have to deal with...

HERE: from MTD>

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The official's whistle will always sound after the foul has been committed. So once again, I ask, was the ball released before the foul or after the foul. Saying that the ball "was released before the foul/whisle blew" does not answer the question I posed in my first post.

mark to easily answer your question on the what if; i guess i have to be EXTRA careful on how i word things to make sure its very clear.the ball was released before the foul occurred; and how do i know that? i did see the foul, but my partner called it before i did. and the shot was long gone.
NEVADAREF:

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Josh, Looking at what you wrote above, I have to ask, if you saw the foul committed by A2? It seems that you did not, since you were watching your primary area and the shooter, A1, who was in it. If that is true, then how can you say the following?: quote: Originally posted by Josh Ovens then he came back and asked me and i told him the ball already left the shooters hand.

nevadaref, i already answered your question at the same time i answered marks.

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WHAT FOOTLOCKER SAID IS SADLY TRUE:This is a typical referee answer though. A ref will ask a question about a rule (i.e. runing the end line). Then Mr. Senior Official will complicate the scenario by questioning another aspect of the situation that is really not the point. Way too typical.In two posts the question was asked and answered completely.

JR, FOOTLOCKER, THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT.!~

no problem. I did like how this simple situation exposes the problem with some posters here. I can't say that I have never been guilty of it. good luck.

If you're just looking for someone to pat you on the back, then great. If you are looking for feedback, then you may not always get the feedback you want.

Rich, no pats on the back for you here. Why so snotty with Josh? I'm not here to pat people on the back and he was not looking for that. My post was not even directed at him. Why don't you read the whole thread. Did you just want to add a post that did nothing but instigate something?

And you know what the funny thing is...you did, and you did...you asked your question, and JR answered it within moments...stop worrying about the other things people bring up (serious and not so serious), and realize that you got the answer you were looking for...you did it right, and that's what counts...

Maybe we are all getting a little fussy this time of year.
Just relax and take a deep breath.

Let's not get our shorts all bunched up
 

Amen!

I just want to know why Mark got reemed for offering a side point. The original question was answered, and Mark thought of another point (a valid one, IMO). Why does everyone get so huffy over this?

Good grief, it's not like he challenged his patriotism.

;)

all right, all right. I give.

I didn't think that I was rude to Josh either. If I came across that way, my apologies.
Just wondering why not learn two things from one play instead of just one? That can't hurt anyone.